Posted on Oct 19, 2022
What is the difference between promotion date of rank and promotion date of grade?
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Hello all,
I was recently promoted to Major in the National Guard after the completion of a DA board. I have been prior enlisted, and also acting in an O4 slot for many years and on an deployment, but was never actually promotable in that slot. All of my orders state that my promotion rank entry date is 08 July 2022, but that my promotion grade entry date is 08 July 2020. What does this mean? I have asked around at my unit but no one has an answer. Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer.
I was recently promoted to Major in the National Guard after the completion of a DA board. I have been prior enlisted, and also acting in an O4 slot for many years and on an deployment, but was never actually promotable in that slot. All of my orders state that my promotion rank entry date is 08 July 2022, but that my promotion grade entry date is 08 July 2020. What does this mean? I have asked around at my unit but no one has an answer. Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer.
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For DA Boards, those dates will be the same.
If you had a position vacancy promotion or if you were a DA Select officer on active duty who transferred to the reserve component prior to being promoted they might be different. There are a few more 'special situations' where that might happen, but those are even less common.
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ref: DoDI 1310.01
If you had a position vacancy promotion or if you were a DA Select officer on active duty who transferred to the reserve component prior to being promoted they might be different. There are a few more 'special situations' where that might happen, but those are even less common.
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ref: DoDI 1310.01
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MAJ (Join to see)
Sir,
I believe the assignment I am currently in was effective 1 June 2022. The only other insight I can offer is that I was beginning active duty orders in July of 2020. I was the intelligence officer for an aviation brigade, so I was in an acting O4 capacity but could not promote because I am not an aviator.
I believe the assignment I am currently in was effective 1 June 2022. The only other insight I can offer is that I was beginning active duty orders in July of 2020. I was the intelligence officer for an aviation brigade, so I was in an acting O4 capacity but could not promote because I am not an aviator.
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COL Randall C.
MAJ (Join to see), I did a deeper dive into the regulations and couldn't find anything further that might explain your situation.
I even delved into the glossary of very regulations to see if there was a difference in terminology, but there wasn't:
Date of rank (DOR). The DOR is the date the officer actually or constructively was appointed or promoted to a specific grade. It is the date used to determine the relative seniority for officers holding the same grade.
Date of Grade. The actual date on which an officer was appointed in a particular grade, adjusted for service credit; it is the date used to determine relative seniority for officers holding the same grade.
Again, aside from the scenarios laid out that are some very infrequent exceptions, I can't find anything. Additionally, the exceptions always go one way - the DOR is being moved up. In your case, you show that the DOR is after the Date of Grade.
The only possible thing I can add (and this is just conjecture) it is appears to be some mixup in terminology from "old school" to "new school" dealing with IPPS-A. However, this doesn't nothing to address the "WHY" of your question about the dates being two years apart.
I'm stumped, but will ask some of the personnel experts at work and see if they know.
I even delved into the glossary of very regulations to see if there was a difference in terminology, but there wasn't:
Date of rank (DOR). The DOR is the date the officer actually or constructively was appointed or promoted to a specific grade. It is the date used to determine the relative seniority for officers holding the same grade.
Date of Grade. The actual date on which an officer was appointed in a particular grade, adjusted for service credit; it is the date used to determine relative seniority for officers holding the same grade.
Again, aside from the scenarios laid out that are some very infrequent exceptions, I can't find anything. Additionally, the exceptions always go one way - the DOR is being moved up. In your case, you show that the DOR is after the Date of Grade.
The only possible thing I can add (and this is just conjecture) it is appears to be some mixup in terminology from "old school" to "new school" dealing with IPPS-A. However, this doesn't nothing to address the "WHY" of your question about the dates being two years apart.
I'm stumped, but will ask some of the personnel experts at work and see if they know.
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MAJ (Join to see)
COL Randall C. - Sir, again thanks for all the effort. As I mentioned, everyone else seems to be stumped about this scenario as well. My assumption at this point is that it was just a typo, but it went through a lot of different hands so I figured someone would have caught it if that were the case.
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