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MSG Darrin Smith
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Yes, it was difficult for two reasons. The first reason is I had a huge learning curve and no one was there for me to lean on for answers so I could have done several things better. Second was trying to be the best soldier I could and the best business owner at the same time is difficult. Lessons learned was get a business where you do not have to manage a inventory. Choose a product you are familiar with and enjoy. Online selling was the best option for me. Websites are low start up and they are open 24 hrs and most importantly I did not have to hover over employees, manage payroll or any of those time consuming things. E-commerce is perhaps a suitable business if time is a concern. Also realize you don't have to rush, enjoy the journey.
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MSG Darrin Smith
MSG Darrin Smith
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Yes I decided on drop shipping. I took a slight lose on my profit margin however it freed up my time to do other things instead of setting stock age levels and ordering supplies and waiting for them to come in. I worked a deal with the supplier so that he kept a small supply of my high selling items. That way I always had the items and did not sell an item I did not have in inventory.
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PO2 Boatswain's Mate
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I was considering this very same thing, but I was worried about breaching some regulation about starting a business while under contract. Would it be advisable to notify my chain of command before, during or after I make a Gofundme for start-up costs?
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SGT Infantryman
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How did you decide what type of area or interest to focus on?
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PO1 Mark Koenig
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JAG consultations are free while on active duty. I know there were people from my community wanting to cash in on PMC activities but the entanglements became barriers when attempting to get weapons on hand.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CDR (Join to see) I'm sorry that I'm chiming in, because I retired in 2012, but I have started two businesses, one while serving and the other just recently at the end of 2012. The first time, I got deployed and I had to sell my interest in the company, so point being if you are going to start a business on your own (who will run it if you get deployed?), secondly, if you are involved in an LLC and you have a share of the company will the managing partner(s) pick up your end of the work load if you get deployed. Something to consider. My last business I picked the wrong partner. You have to really vet your partners if you start an LLC. I thought I did, but as time went on and I found out that he was stealing from the company I immediately shut down the company to save face with some of my investors and former clients that I brought to the table. Point - know your partners and make sure that whoever is going to be the managing partner (majority share holder) that they are willing and open to all financial dealings, access to records, access to bank accounts, and they perform under the guidelines of the Operating Agreement. Hold them to their agreement and responsibilities and stay involved everyday. Don't assume anything. Just a few words of wisdom from an old Colonel with a little experience in business matters.
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Thanks for the feedback Sir!
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SFC Infantryman
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sir should there be any issue within the command being a business owner while on active duty? I ask this because there have been a few comments around the office about that fact. what if any implication could arise so i can be better prepared to speak on the subject?
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SSgt Alan Pruitt
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Starting a business while on active duty is challenging for almost any member - regardless of branch of service or deployment status. As a serial entrepreneur with a lot of start-up experience and economic developer by trade - here is my advice. 1) find a local Small Business Development Center (SBDC) in or near your community and open up a confidential and free counseling channel to discuss your self-employment goals before you commit any significant time or finances towards. SBDCs are funded by the US Small Business Administration and co-hosted by a lot of community colleges nationwide. SBDCs are part of a vast national network of business advisors who can help you decide if starting your own business (now or in the future) is a viable option. If nothing else, take advantage of the many low-cost or no-cost workshops to learn about Small Business 101. 2) If you don't understand or appreciate what small business finance is all about - then don't be the cause of a self-inflicted wound that will lead you towards financial distress. Enroll in courses that teach you the Intuit Quickbooks platform. Know the difference between cash flow and profit/loss statements (hint: they are not the same thing). 3) Do not (under most circumstances) BORROW any money to start-up a business. Appreciate boot-strap funding and avoid going into to debt for a venture that has a low probability of returning your borrowed investment in less than 5 years. 3) "Fail Fast." My go to phrase for anyone seeking my small business start-up advice. Some ideas are just that - ideas. Don't get trapped into being a financial martyr for an idea that will drain you (and your loved ones) financially and emotionally. 4) The product or service that offers the highest ROI (return on investment) is anything knowledge based. You have probably spent years in training and work experience becoming a subject matter expert in something. Stick to your wheelhouse and reduce your start-up risk. Also be aware of current regulations regarding self-employment while on active duty. 5) A great time and financial investment now (while on active duty) is to pursue professional certifications that are knowledge-based, i.e., Realtor, certified personal trainer, certified public accountant, private pilot license, anything professional health-care related, general contractor, etc. Choose certifications that are portable (recognized anywhere in the US); professionally accepted and offer the chance at possible self-employment later down the road. 6) As hockey legend Wayne Gretzky said once, "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been." You must take his advice and apply it to your current and future business (and career) plans.
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CDR Officer In Charge
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Excellent, thank you! Can you elaborate or point me in the right direction for your last point in #4 above? I've searched a few times for regulations regarding self-employment while on active duty with little help...
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SSgt Alan Pruitt
SSgt Alan Pruitt
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I know a Marine Corps Order P12000.11A (only) that speaks to off-duty employment (by active duty members) with non-appropriated fund (NAF) activities. It's in paragraph 2107. Other service branches most likely have vague references to off-duty employment. The slippery slope area is when the senior member is perceived as doing business with or soliciting business from a junior member. In Hawaii, I watched several career train wrecks with MLM schemes between senior and junior members (p.s. - MLM is not a business model - it's a sucker bet). Google this search term to find a "Information Paper" about "Off-Duty or Employment Outside the Federal Government". Here is another Google search: SEEKING EMPLOYMENT RESTRICTIONS (RULES WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB). Bottom-line: When in doubt about your venture - you should seek counsel from the command or branch and be ready for some scrutiny of your activity. That's why I recommend stealth preparation with professional certification pathways and then you are just engaged in "professional development". You can build your professional connections in your space (i.e., LinkedIn); de-militarize your resume and profile; and be ready to act at the right time.
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