Posted on May 16, 2023
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How do you handle the disconnect in communication when speaking with the civilian world about patriotism and leadership, or in advocating for the American fighting spirit? Do you ever feel that type of tension? How have you navigated huge cultural differences as a veteran when discussing American patriotism?

I am working on my graduate degree and I look around, not only at our veteran population here, but to the campus as a whole and I see something like an emptiness. There is so much I love about our country's ideals and principles, about the nation's military and it's virtues, so much that is prevalent and beneficial to the communities of today and those of us working to better ourselves and enter some type of servant-leadership career, and yet I see these wonderful and historically American things are not being brought into the community or the everyday discussions we have. I don't mean to find some type of hyper-patriotism, but I hope to see the same fire of character and spirit that is easily found in some of today's service members, also in some of my fellow civilians, especially those that are veterans. Yet, it seems quiet in their hearts.
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CSM Chuck Stafford
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The best way I have found is to affect those within my sphere of influence with my actions. The consistent display of my actions is the best advocate. The only intentional direct conversations I have had have been when I found the local elementary school flying our flag upside down -- twice now in the last 6-months. It's not just the school's flag, it's the community's flag, it's our flag.
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If we don't have words, if we don't use our words, then what lasting good are our actions? Thoughts matter. It is our values, morals, and beliefs that produce our actions. But our actions can never take the place of our words. Our country is a great example, it exists today not because we won the revolutionary war, but because we wrote down a constitution.
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CSM William Everroad
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1LT (Join to see), Depends on your actual definition of patriotism.

I agree with LTC (Join to see) (to a point), the decline is noticeable, but nuanced.

Citizens are more distracted by the hyper news cycles that puts on display the flaws of our country. Some of it is yellow journalism, but most of it is accurate portrayal of our issues no matter which political ideology you subscribe to. I don't believe its that citizens "hate" the country, more disappointed.

Social Media is the juice that amplifies the disagreements. It's hard to be proud of a country's accomplishments when the two major parties are both saying the other is leading the country to its demise and the talking heads on SM and TV agree and fan the flames is discord and discontent. We are fighting each other for no good reason.

We stopped really talking to each other and started arguing. Instead of coming together and talking about ways we can put this country's vast resources to good use for issues that affect everyone, we see each encounter as an assault on the American way of life.

I think plenty of people are still proud of the idea and values of "America", but there is a disconnect between that and the "what are we doing about our problems".

Each issue is a stain that we would rather argue about than do even the most incremental thing.
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perhaps you can actively incorporate some of the virtues and ideals you love about our country and our military into the daily discussions and interactions you have. By setting an example and sharing your perspective with others, you can help inspire others to embrace similar virtues and ideals.
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Are we? Yes
The decline in patriotism has been earned through years (generations) of governance and policy contrary to our founding principles.

The biggest difference today is the change in media allows many more individuals to see how the sausage is made. It's not that our government is so much worse today its that people are more aware of it.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Yes, I argued for years that we have had a screwed up foreign and domestic policy since Reagan. We want to be world cop while the elite at home sold our manufacturing base. It would look like that after 22 years of the War on Terror and the disaster in Afghanistan we would have figured out that we suck at it. Instead we find new people, or should I say recycled, foes. Now we want to square off against an adversary that at least has a coherent foreign policy even though we don't agree with it.
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