Posted on Jul 20, 2015
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I just read an interesting article asking why the flag is not half-staff after five serivce members were murdered in an apparent terrorist attack. What are your thoughts? Should the flag be lowered to honor them?
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SGM Senior Adviser, National Communications
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What is the national standard criteria? Used to be only for the deaths of very high officials or people who made a significant impact on American culture. It helped us ponder their legacy. So what is the standard today? Based on the comments before us, we have no standard. If we are going to lower the national flag every time a policeman or soldier is killed we might as well cut the flag staff in half. Why must we wait for a murder to honor people? Let the governors of the state lower the flag to honor in-state recruiters. National, no. Nor do I agree with how the flag has been lowered nationally in the recent past.
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SrA Edward Vong
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This is a great response, and I agree. Troops, policemen, firefighters die almost everyday. We may as well always fly the flag at half staff if this were the case.
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SGM Senior Adviser, National Communications
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Today's news reports that Congress lowered their flag, and the President follows, both from what appears to be political and media pressure--not necessarily the public will nor the greater good. And thus our standard, if we have one, is also lowered. To be clear, all glory should go to honor real heroes who look death in the eye. We have deep compassion for our recruiters and their families who died in the line of duty and for the many more who died and will die around the world for whom no flag is lowered, but respectfully draped and folded. We do not honor them by politicizing their deaths , by making the simple act of lowered flag less about honor, more about bending to the will of the most vocal group of media or politicians. Lost in the political emotional reaction is the poor message we send worldwide, not that United we Stand, but that one lone nut who conducts a criminal act can influence an entire nation to arm itself and lower its flags. America, wake up! ALL Americans are targets for criminals who hijack a religion used to disguise political agendas. We should understand that after 9/11 and the Boston Marathon, et al. People in uniform are just more visible targets.
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Here is a look at other recent attacks on military facilities in the U.S.:
— June 17, 2015: Guards shot and killed an armed man after he crashed his SUV and emerged holding a rifle while apparently trying to break into the Little Rock Air Force Base in Arkansas.
— Jan. 6, 2015: At Fort Bliss, Texas, an Army veteran and former clerk at the veterans' clinic there shot and killed a psychologist, then committed suicide.
— Nov. 13, 2014: Two Navy civilian police officers were wounded while confronting a knife-wielding man at the submarine base in Groton, Connecticut. The suspect was taken into custody.
— April 2, 2014: At Fort Hood, Texas, three soldiers died and 16 others were wounded in a shooting rampage by another soldier, Army Spc. Ivan A. Lopez, who then killed himself.
— March 24, 2014: A civilian truck driver, Jeffrey Tyrone Savage, took a gun from a petty officer on watch aboard a destroyer at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia, and killed a sailor before being shot by Navy security forces.
— Sept. 16, 2013: Aaron Alexis, a mentally disturbed civilian contractor, shot 12 people to death at the Washington Navy Yard before he was killed in a police shootout.
— Nov. 5, 2009: Fort Hood Army Base, Texas: Army Maj. Nidal Malik Nadal Hasan, 39, was convicted in August 2013 for killing 13 people and wounding more than 30.
— June 1, 2009: Private William Long was killed and Private Quinton Ezeagwula was wounded when Abdulhakim Muhammad opened fire on the soldiers as they entered an Army-Navy recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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Governor Bullock's proclamation reads: "I hereby order all flags flown in the State of Montana to be flown at half-staff on Tuesday, July 21st, 2015 to honor the memory of the four U.S. Marines and a Navy Sailor who died in the line of duty on July 16th, 2015 in Chattanooga, Tennessee. The thoughts and prayers of my family and administration are with the families and friends of these brave serviceman and with the people of Tennessee."

The victims came from across the country, but united in Chattanooga, brought together by their service in the military.

Marines Gunnery Sgt. Thomas Sullivan of Massachusetts was a two-time Purple Heart recipient. He served three tours of duty.

Lance Cpl. Squire K. Wells, better known as "Skip," graduated from high school three years ago. The Georgia native joined the Marines in 2014 and had already earned a National Defense Service Medal.

Marines Staff Sgt. David Wyatt of Arkansas served two tours of duty in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. His wife posted about his death on Facebook. "He was such a great husband and father," one commenter wrote.

Marines Sgt. Carson Holmquist was also a husband and father and served two tours of duty in Afghanistan. Upon one of his homecomings, his family held up a sign that read, "We've waited 244 days for this moment. Welcome home Sgt. Holmquist."

Navy Petty Officer Randall Smith of Ohio was a logistics specialist. He saw the gunman in last week's attack and warned people around him, family members said, but was unable to get away.
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The flags should be half staff across the country for the hero's that where gunned down by the coward hiding behind religion and ideology for his actions.
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LTC Bink Romanick
LTC Bink Romanick
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Thera no proof yet that he was a member or fellow traveller of any terror group. The facts are pointing to mental illness.
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SFC David Denton
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Then every flag across the country should be flown at half staff for every other service member that has died as well. Why should we signify that their sacrifice was somehow greater than all the other men and women in our armed forces that have died? Don't get me wrong here, I'm mad as hell, and ready to fight, but what would you tell the families of our fallen when they ask why we as a nation did not see fit to pay their sons, daughter, husbands, wives, mothers or fathers the same respect?
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SFC David Denton you are preaching to the choir. I think it should be lowered for every one. No argument from me. We can't change the past, but we should definitely do it from here on out.
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I may have allowed some emotion into my response. I can't say for sure if it was terrorism, but if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...we know the TTP from ISIS and other extremist groups is to use lone wolves like this individual to carry out attacks on U.S. soil. Isn't technology great?
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