Posted on Jun 30, 2023
Is there official Army sanctioned Chainsaw Operator Training and Licensing?
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I am a National Guardsman who has operated a chainsaw professionally for nearly 10 years. As the former XO/OO of a Combat Engineer company within a BEB, I had two chainsaws on my hand-receipt. I am interested in providing chainsaw safety and operator training to soldiers based on my civilian knowledge and experience.
I'm still learning the ins and outs of a the Army Licensing program, but I know the Army requires "licensing" for some seeming rather simple equipment. I have tried searching APD for any doctrine on the subject and have struck out. My master driver has looked in G-Army for "chainsaw" and struck out.
Is a gas-powered chainsaw a "license-able" piece of equipment? If so, how can I become licensed and how can I teach and license others? In other words, if I put on a training course, and am asked to provide Army credentials showing I am qualified to do so, what credentials should I have?
Thanks!
I'm still learning the ins and outs of a the Army Licensing program, but I know the Army requires "licensing" for some seeming rather simple equipment. I have tried searching APD for any doctrine on the subject and have struck out. My master driver has looked in G-Army for "chainsaw" and struck out.
Is a gas-powered chainsaw a "license-able" piece of equipment? If so, how can I become licensed and how can I teach and license others? In other words, if I put on a training course, and am asked to provide Army credentials showing I am qualified to do so, what credentials should I have?
Thanks!
Edited 11 mo ago
Posted 11 mo ago
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Does the Army have a certification program on chainsaw operations? Surprisingly, no (or if they do, it's some super-secret squirrel type of training that only those inducted into the Cabal of Illuminati Engineers are allowed to know about).
Way back when, I led up a team developing a DSCA handbook and one of the things we came across was that, while there were safety regulations* and guidelines about using a chainsaw, we could find no indication that there was any such certification or licensing program (we even reached out to TRADOC, the Engineer School, and the HQA G-3/5/7 and they weren't able to find anything).
Since you used one professionally, I assume you know that there are certification programs available, but the only that I've encountered for the Army were local policies at the installation or unit to get certified though OSHA training* or through the Forestry Department* (again, that's assuming they had such a policy - otherwise it was safety training).
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* https://www.publications.usace.army.mil/portals/76/publications/engineermanuals/em_385-1-1.pdf
* https://www.fs.usda.gov/t-d/pubs/htmlpubs/htm06672804/page01.htm
* https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/fy10_sh-20823-10_chainsawsafety-eng.pdf
Way back when, I led up a team developing a DSCA handbook and one of the things we came across was that, while there were safety regulations* and guidelines about using a chainsaw, we could find no indication that there was any such certification or licensing program (we even reached out to TRADOC, the Engineer School, and the HQA G-3/5/7 and they weren't able to find anything).
Since you used one professionally, I assume you know that there are certification programs available, but the only that I've encountered for the Army were local policies at the installation or unit to get certified though OSHA training* or through the Forestry Department* (again, that's assuming they had such a policy - otherwise it was safety training).
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* https://www.publications.usace.army.mil/portals/76/publications/engineermanuals/em_385-1-1.pdf
* https://www.fs.usda.gov/t-d/pubs/htmlpubs/htm06672804/page01.htm
* https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/fy10_sh-20823-10_chainsawsafety-eng.pdf
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1LT (Join to see), we ran into the same problem. We had standard chainsaws for obstacle and breaching tasks and the IHME comes with hydraulic chainsaws. We reached out to some NG units in the state who has OSHA chainsaw certs and had them do some M-Day training for a couple units.
I think you can be as creative as you want to be, within the guidelines of the CDR's risk assumption authority), but I would ensure your DRAW is up to speed and include certified chainsaw operators (in some fashion) as your instructors.
I think you can be as creative as you want to be, within the guidelines of the CDR's risk assumption authority), but I would ensure your DRAW is up to speed and include certified chainsaw operators (in some fashion) as your instructors.
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Sounds like you're in a bit of a bind. Licensing for gas-powered chainsaws in the Army can be tricky to navigate. I'm not sure about official Army-sanctioned training, but your civilian experience definitely counts for something.As for credentials, it might be worth reaching out to your chain of command or training NCO for guidance. They might have more info on what's required to provide training and get certified.Oh, and speaking of chainsaws, I recently came across something interesting: the Mini Chainsaw. It's not quite the same as what you're dealing with, but it might be worth checking out for personal use or smaller tasks. Here's a link I found: https://protguide.com/power-tools/best-mini-chainsaw/
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