Posted on Sep 21, 2023
SGT George Young
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Many many years ago (84-87 and 13M after that).I was in a Special Weapons Section as a 13B. We handled and were exposed to DU sometimes daily. Now, I have been diagnosed with some neurological issues that maybe/could be linked to the exposure I believe ( it’s neurotoxin related). I was tested for DU exposure couple years ago but of course, due to passage of time, it showed nothing ( test was a 1 time piss test). VA said it wasn’t GWI either. Anyone else experience anything like this or just me thinking it could be related?
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COL Randall C.
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The DU exposure the VA has been focused on is when DU rounds were turned into particulate matter and inhaled (either being hit by friendly fire of DU or doing vehicle exploitation and an enemy vehicle that was destroyed by DU rounds), entered through open wounds, or possibly having DU fragments embedded in the body.

DU emits very low levels of radiation, and the majority of the radiation that it does emit is alpha radiation which is stopped by your skin*. This is why you either have to be exposed to a LOT of DU or have it enter your body through a wound or breathing particulates.

If you do have DU particulates enter the body, it can take years for them to fully clear the lungs (if inhaled) or even longer (or not at all) if you have an embedded fragment. Elevated levels in the bloodstream would show up on the uranalysis test.

While DU exposure is unlikely to have had a proximate or contributory cause of your neurological issues (again, unless you have had DU enter your body somehow), there might be other environmental factors that could have* that you might want to explore.
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* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222850/
* https://www.iaea.org/topics/spent-fuel-management/depleted-uranium
* https://www.warrelatedillness.va.gov/education/factsheets/du-for-providers.pdf
* https://www.publichealth.va.gov/PUBLICHEALTH/exposures/index.asp
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SGT George Young
SGT George Young
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Yes, that’s about all I found also. However, we handled DU daily with our bare hands ( gloves were suggested but was actually harder to do the builds -assembly of the tactical nuclear round as we called it -and more dangerous). They would tell you wash your hands after ( obviously) in case you had broken skin or cuts on your hands. Many times, after a build, you’d be able to see the veins in your hands. Also, you would be locked in a confined area ( connex box) as you did the builds and “Spaulding” was a very real concern. 2 of the guys I was ( that I know of)with passed from small cell lung cancer. The only thing the urinalysis tested for ( according to the report) was if it was in my kidneys. And, my kidneys were functioning below normal but no DU found. My daughters have issues that have been associated with me having been exposed. My trust in the VA is non-existent. Per them, regardless of it being in my records, my hearing loss was not caused by me being a 13B ( although, per their own guideline’s it’s to be automatically a yes, service connected )and the clinic testing and saying I suffered profound/ severe hearing loss. My knee problems, documented in my records, my broken ankles, where a piece of bone is fused in the joint and they recommended surgery to fix it - also not service connected. So, I’m not fully buying the VA says this or that line. My neurologist ran test, and my current diagnosis is related to toxic chemical exposure and DU was named as a possibility and I’ll be having further testing. I was hoping that I wasn’t the only one who’s going/gone thru this.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Please educate me. I have never heard of DU being used in the development of Special Weapons for FA. I thought DU was used to strengthen armor, and artillery shells to allow them to pierce Armor.

If you served in the Gulf you may have fired a ton of armor piercing rounds.

Anyway I am by no means an expert, but am curious.
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SGT George Young
SGT George Young
8 mo
We used DU rings ( we called them donuts) to build simulated battlefield tactical nuclear 8inch artillery shells.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
CSM Darieus ZaGara
8 mo
I am aware of that as I was on a team as well (81). All research that I have been able to dig up points away from anything hazardous. Anyway, who the heck knows these days.
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Lt Col Roger Helbig
Lt Col Roger Helbig
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DU kinetic energy penetrator rounds are not fired by artillery, only by tanks and other armored vehicles like the Bradley Fighting Vehicle with its chain-gun. The main gun rounds are only fired by tanks. I now understand what SGT Young was doing. DU has been used to simulate nuclear weapons. The fins on the spotting round for the Davy Crockett were DU to simulate the weight and density of the nuclear warhead which only was fired once at the last atmospheric test conducted in Nevada in July 1962.
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SGT Air Defense Radar Repairer
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First off uranium is a toxic metal and radioactive. DU has a biological half life of 15 days but if you constantly worked around on a regular basis it never had a chance to leave your system. It does have neurological effects. Now a piss test after you left service and were no longer in constant contact means zilch. It not showing up is not grounds to say it dd not damage your health due to its short biological half-life. You would need to do some research and look for any studies of populations where the US used DU.
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SGT George Young
SGT George Young
8 mo
I appreciate the input. The only studies I’m coming up with relate to GWI or temporary exposure l. I’ll try rewording my search criteria. Again, Thanks for the input !
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Lt Col Roger Helbig
Lt Col Roger Helbig
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There is a massive amount of false medical information about DU. You need to contact the VA - the urination test is the only way to determine if you have DU exposure - the VA Office in Baltimore uses Jphns Hopkins University to perform the analysis of the specimen sample. The National Atomic Veterans have information too since your exposure was in building simulated artillery rounds where the DU represents the weight of the actual nuclear warhead.
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