Posted on Apr 18, 2015
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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I was a combat medic in Vietnam in direct support to the 1/26th Reg, 1st Inf Div.
I carried the basic load (to include 80 rounds), M16, and standard rigging with 2 canteens. and pack. I also carried a M3 medic bag and two 1,000 count bottles of Salt Tablets and Darvon in canteen pouches.
I quickly ditched the M16 in favor of a 1911 in a shoulder holster.

So what do the 68W carry around while in the field now days?
What “specials” did you carry?
Are Salt Tablets still "the kind"?
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MSG Senior Enlisted Advisor, Deputy Commander For Clinical Services
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I carried an M4 with 210 rounds, an m9 with 60 rounds, an Aid bag that had everything I could possibly need and a drop leg pouch that had tourniquets. All of that was in addition to the IOTV and ACH that we all have to wear. All of that gear easily took me from 185 lbs to 235-240 lbs. Forget about needing a rucksack. We conducted an air assault mission in Iraq and had to pack for a month....I chose medical gear over uniforms. Couldn't carry both!
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MSG Senior Enlisted Advisor, Deputy Commander For Clinical Services
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Not too deep. We were in an agricultural region and the canals were used for irrigation.
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SPC Team Leader
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I was amazed at the crops they grew there. Watermellon, sunflowers, and stuff that usually needed lots of water. Then I saw how they flooded their fields like rice paddies. It amazes me how people adapt to survive
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What is best Army MOS for a young man who wishes to be a medic but wants to be in a combat unit (not a clinic?) My 18 year old son has enlisted (35T) and is going to BCT in a few months. My 16 yr old son wishes to do delayed entry and do BCT next summer (Between his junior and senior year of high school) and then be a combat medic. But the 16 year old really wants to be a solider (not put in a clinic). What is the best MOS for being a medic and solider?
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SFC Michael D.
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Along with all that, I carried super glue for wounds that needed stitches and tampons to stick in bullet holes. I still carry an aid bag and I'm 62. I'm my MCs medic. Stay prepared.
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CPT Bob Moore
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I would definitely prefer a dirty and smelly medic with medical gear than a medic that had clean clothes.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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CPT Bob Moore
You guys say the sweetest things!
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I can not speak for every medic, but I carried a full combat load for M4 plus a M9 with 45 RDS. Usually had a thigh pack with combat gauze, tourniquets, morphine for short trips, for long trips I carried my medic bag with everything including IV and suture kits.
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SSG S1 Personnel Ncoic
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I carried a Blackhawk aid bag. my aid bag by itself weighed between 45 and 50 lbs depending on mission. throw on the full load for the M4 and body armor and you are looking at nearly 200lbs of gear.
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SPC Tony Mauch
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Same here, Blackhawk aid bag, approx 50lbs. I did finally get it down to 39.5lbs once dismounted patrols became the norm rather than the exception though. Neither of these weights includes the chilled fluids in case of heat emergency, but those always stayed in the vehicles. Lastly, in my unit, your patrol loadout was different than your sickcall load out, and each medic packed his aid bag to the level of his skill set. Unfortunately, all medics are NOT created equal.
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CPL Chris Palmberg
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All these folks talking about rolling with a basic load for their M4 & M9... lol...
First, 3d ACR didn't have enough M4s to go around by the time they moved the colors back to Hood. By OIF 3, our organic engineer company had enough carbines for the line & equipment platoons, but the mechanics, cooks, medics, etc., were issued A4 model M-16s, which are a few inches longer (and therefore heavier) than the normal M-16 (slick thru A-2 models)
Personal & professional philosophy was to scrounge every available magazine for both it and the M9 on my thigh. IIRC, I carried 12 magazines @ 27 rounds each (Old-school tip learned reading LRRP autobiographies from Nam vets during my formative years) plus 3 full mags in reserve plus one in my M-9 for 60 9mm rounds.
Plus of course my aid bag, a Blackhawk backpack as was normal in that Era. In my primary vehicle, there was also an EMS style oxygen bag including an intubation kit, as well as backup dressings and fluids, and a 80s Era MOLLE aid bag for a Pharm Bag for things that didn't need to be in the Aid Bag.
Tossed the '03-04 bag on a scale at one point for 56#. The primary bag in '05-06 weighed at 63#. My IBA was so heavily laden that I attempted a pushup in full rattle and couldn't break the plane because the add-on equipment prevented me from going "all the way down."
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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A CO medic Not have to carry weapons and ammo, so reduces load.
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91A vs 68W - is a combat medic a combat medic?
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I was a Combat Medic deployed with a Light Infantry 81-mm Mortar Platoon in 2003 to Kuwait a month before the war, then headed north after things kicked off. My basic load was an M4 with 210 rounds, two cans of smoke, my M17 aid bag, JSLIST chemical suit, M40 chemical protective mask, and all the water and stripped down MREs I could carry in my large ruck.

When I deployed back to Iraq as a Combat Medic to conduct mounted patrol, my basic load was both an M4 with 210 and an M9 with 3 mags of 15. My aid bag was upgraded to a Blackhawk STOMP II packed solely for trauma. I also carried a pouch on my left thigh, opposite my M9, that carried a couple tourniquets, some needles for chest decompression, a couple homemade cricothyrodoromy kits, a field dressing and some tape and dressings. Of course I squirreled away some goodies in other trucks, just in case my truck was taken out.

As far as calling those that haven't been engaged in combat, or haven't done time as a line medic...I guess it's all semantics. We train for combat from day 1, so I'm cool with it. Even with this badge above US ARMY, there's still someone better at my job who hasn't had the pleasure of deploying to the nether region of the earth. We all have our specific duties, but our core fundamentals are the tactics, techniques and procedures associated with combat medicine.
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SPC Elisabeth Vinal
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SSG Bockting...100% correct! I would add that all Combat Medics, current and former, likely live by our Motto and are willing to die by it too. Who will medic the Medic on the battlefield? So, we all are willing to deploy, do our duty, do our job, potentially give all.

That's more than can be said of most...

Makes me proud every day...
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SPC Treatment Medic
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To add to salt tablets they're no
Longer needed. I use salt from MREs with flavor packets and water to ghetto rig and not have extra weight.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Roger that. I can see that having the hydration packs could make a world of difference. Looking back on it now I'm pretty sure we were dehydrated to a good period of the time.
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So I'll give you my run down of deployment as a combat medic (I say combat medic meaning with infantry, with countless patrols a week. All that hooah jazz)
I had my m4 for combat load and M9. Wearing a plate carrier.
As far as medical supplies I carried multiple bags of he tend as well as saline for just incase heat injury. Massive amounts of bleeding control. TQ combat gauze all that jazz. Airway control and pain management meds. For longer times away from the fob I would also carry meds and other stuff to take care of minor medical issues to keep my boys going. In total I carried around 120lbs of gear. Weighing 270lbs standing normal i weighed myself just over 400 in full everything. Combat medicine has change and advance for the better. Our ability to move combat wounded from point of injury to role three care and home has a massive survivabilty rate. It is thanks to those that came before us that we are where we are today.
Welcome home SPC, thank you for your service.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Thank you very much for the snapshot.
In Vietnam it was 90% stop the bleeding and prep for transport. Baring a lousy day we could get dust-off in less the 30 minutes.
My day to day problems were feet, feet, feet and small wounds (like bamboo poising) that would not close in all the wetness.
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SPC Lea Hartmann
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Hooah!! Welcome home, SPC!!
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I usually just carry a CSH on my back. 18D (best medicine is shooting the bad guy first)
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Just to comment on the differences. My last three deployments were as team medic for PSD teams or platoon medic for infantry platoons. I have only done one deployment as a hospital medic. Now I'm in a medic unit and even my superiors give me strange looks because of some of the training I suggest. Hospital medics receive far better training, but most simply don't have what it takes to be field/combat medics. Good combat medics could kick a hospital medic's ass in any trauma situation, hands down. As far as gear is concerned, it usually depends on the mode of travel (an MRAP can carry a lot more than a single person). If you're patrolling, it's probably advisable to spread load gear throughout the platoon (one WALK kit per squad to include poleless litter). Not only is the medic dual carrying weapons and ammo, he also has his aid bag to consider.
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CPL Chris Palmberg
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I enlisted as a 91A. Before I arrived at Sam, it was merged into 91B. Carried that MOS until 2000, when they merged about a dozen clinical MOS into 91W, then when they renumbered everything Army-wide so Officer & Enlisted branch numbers matched. At the end of the day, a line medic is still a line medic, and while the knowledge base may have expanded and capabilities grown, the majority of the complaints remain the same... chronic diarrhea, dehydration (our Joes have energy drinks instead of amphetamines,) monkey butt, and other forms of the crud. APC pills are long gone, but the treatment creed has remained "Change your Motrin, Drink your Socks, and Take some water..."
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SGT Forscom Ncoic
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It all depended on the mission, dismounted I would have every one of my infantrymen carry an if kit and I would load down with Hester's and trauma equipment. On top of my m4 and full combat load. Mounted I would have two aid bags, an m9 that never left my back with enough trauma equipment to get my soldier back to the truck where my big aid bag waited.
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