Posted on Mar 28, 2017
A soldier asked me if they can take pre work out before a PT test. Can you do that?
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Could someone explain the military definition of "pre-workout" and where it is referenced?
It really cracks me up when people try to re-invent the wheel by using different terminology.
Consider this - is it exercise, food, food supplements, or something else; or a combination of these items.
Considering everything that I know, MSG (Join to see) has given the best answer.
It really cracks me up when people try to re-invent the wheel by using different terminology.
Consider this - is it exercise, food, food supplements, or something else; or a combination of these items.
Considering everything that I know, MSG (Join to see) has given the best answer.
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SSG Robert Webster
MAJ (Join to see) - Sorry but you did not answer my question.
Also, how can you state that this particular instance is about a supplement? (Supplements as generally understood include vitamins, minerals, fiber, fatty acids, or amino acids, among other substances.)
The warm-up and initial stretching session are separate pre-workout activities. Pre-Workout Nutrition - Your body needs fuel to perform at peak efficiency during your workout. Starving yourself before you work out forces your body to burn muscle energy while you’re exercising. The contents of a pre-workout meal will vary depending on your workout goal, but in general you should eat a meal about two or three hours before your workout that includes plenty of protein, some healthy carbs and a little fat. You may also want to drink a protein shake, particularly if you’re trying to build muscle.
So, like I initially stated - explain the military definition of "pre-workout" and where it is referenced.
Thank you.
Also, how can you state that this particular instance is about a supplement? (Supplements as generally understood include vitamins, minerals, fiber, fatty acids, or amino acids, among other substances.)
The warm-up and initial stretching session are separate pre-workout activities. Pre-Workout Nutrition - Your body needs fuel to perform at peak efficiency during your workout. Starving yourself before you work out forces your body to burn muscle energy while you’re exercising. The contents of a pre-workout meal will vary depending on your workout goal, but in general you should eat a meal about two or three hours before your workout that includes plenty of protein, some healthy carbs and a little fat. You may also want to drink a protein shake, particularly if you’re trying to build muscle.
So, like I initially stated - explain the military definition of "pre-workout" and where it is referenced.
Thank you.
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SSG Robert Webster
MAJ (Join to see) - Also, when I posed the question and statement, SGT Robert Cupp had not yet posted the additional information.
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SSG Robert Webster
SFC (Anonymous) - NSS, but that is not was initially stated.
Secondly, isn't the primary concern here that a soldier, any soldier, would set themselves up for a catastrophic failure.
In addition, it seems as if the Army's Master Fitness Trainer and Nutritional Fitness training has been a waste of time and effort if they are not utilized. And this question seems to validate my conclusion. Especially with all of the anecdotal evidence provided for by the answers given to the good Sergeants initial question.
Thank you.
Secondly, isn't the primary concern here that a soldier, any soldier, would set themselves up for a catastrophic failure.
In addition, it seems as if the Army's Master Fitness Trainer and Nutritional Fitness training has been a waste of time and effort if they are not utilized. And this question seems to validate my conclusion. Especially with all of the anecdotal evidence provided for by the answers given to the good Sergeants initial question.
Thank you.
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SSG Robert Webster
SFC (Anonymous) - Well considering that I was in the Army at the time of the implementation of the Master Fitness Trainer course inception, and through two major changes in physical fitness training philosophies and knew at the time of my retirement in 1996 that the Master Fitness Trainer program was a failure, I think that I know what the Master Fitness Trainer program was intended to do.
But the primary thing in the success or failure of these types of programs is the education and buy-in of the Company and Battalion level Commanders.
I am sure that you are just as well aware of how sleep or rest is just as critical to the success of a unit, but how often have you seen a Commander enforce that one simple item on everyone in that command? Or how about a road march where the soldier's feet are not checked on a regular basis?
Implementing such a program and enforcing it can pay great dividends if they are done. But when lip service alone is done, how a program is a failure.
What does this remind me of - It reminds me of what happens when a commander does not provide or is not provided the appropriate resources to accomplish a mission. Or as some photographic anecdotes goes to prove, why did a commander ship the A & B deployment bags, when they have not yet shipped the transportation to move them, and you end up with soldiers that look like overloaded pack mules.
But the primary thing in the success or failure of these types of programs is the education and buy-in of the Company and Battalion level Commanders.
I am sure that you are just as well aware of how sleep or rest is just as critical to the success of a unit, but how often have you seen a Commander enforce that one simple item on everyone in that command? Or how about a road march where the soldier's feet are not checked on a regular basis?
Implementing such a program and enforcing it can pay great dividends if they are done. But when lip service alone is done, how a program is a failure.
What does this remind me of - It reminds me of what happens when a commander does not provide or is not provided the appropriate resources to accomplish a mission. Or as some photographic anecdotes goes to prove, why did a commander ship the A & B deployment bags, when they have not yet shipped the transportation to move them, and you end up with soldiers that look like overloaded pack mules.
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Oh come on, it’s not like a PT test is a daunting task. You know what go out and run 4-5 days a week, do your pull-ups or pushups whatever. The minimums to pass are ridiculous, any active Hs kid could probably pass it. Now if your asked to max it that’s a different story, I could never ever do a 3 mile run in 18 minutes, I could never ever do 20 pull-ups, but I could do that run in 20-21 minutes, I could do 14 pull-ups, I always has a first class PT score and I wasn’t exceptional at anything. But I ran 5-6 days a week because I knew I’d never do 18 minutes, but I didn’t want to be the turd struggling to hit 28 minutes.
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While in the Navy we had a guy light a smoke to breathe better during the run. Needless to say he wasn’t allowed to finish.
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I popped 4 Aleves before a PT test once. I passed & did not die from my gut bleeding. I felt horrible afterwards but no pain. I was in severe pain from later on that evening until 3 days later. I could barely move. My PT tests after that, I got off my ass & prepared for it.
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Really? How much help do you need to run 3 miles in under 28 minutes, a few pull-ups a few sit-ups? That was the old standard anyway, can’t imagine in proportion it’s much tougher.
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This guy that used to be in my unit took pre workout before his PT test and he failed miserably. It could have just been the way his body reacted to it since he wasn't lifting but you know your body. I wouldn't recommend it but hey, it's your choice.
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In Afghanistan i took pre workout before a diagnostic pt test. I was gonna be lifting on our off day, but a quick frago changed that. I maxed pushups and situps, but 3/4 of the way through the 2 mile run, i almost passed out. Not recommended.
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Considering the fact that people don't get that pre workout is designed generally for strength activities ( weightlifting , strongman etc) , cardio to include springs can and have in the past caused heart attacks during a PRT.
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Speaking from experience, I saw a Soldier take pre-work out before our PT test back in 2015, I then saw him turn pale after sit-ups were done and watched as he puked his brains out flushing all of it out. Although some people are different so who knows maybe your Soldier will have a different take to it?
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