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My peers don't inforce standards and I know every person in a leadership role has talked about how undisciplined the soldier's are. That leaves me to be the "bulldog". I hate to be, but at times I feel like I have to. Now all the soldier's view me as a bitch because of this and I speak sternly (viewed by some as condescending) when verbally counseling. Mind you, I've lost my cool once.
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Stripes are about leadership so don't put them on unless you want to be a leader. Yeah your the bulldog the one that might have to give orders that will but troops in harms way. You have been tasked with military discipline and authority and you have accepted the responsibility so get on with it and lead. Why are we even having this conversation.
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It seems like all the advice given is pretty solid, make sure you are within standards yourself, lead by example and the subordinates will respect your leadership, fall outside the standard and you will start to lose respect. You cannot enforce what you cannot attain and sustain yourself.
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pick your battles and empathize with your soldiers. My team and I have a good relationship. Thus, I tell them to do something and they do it. Don't need to raise my voice. I also, don't jack with them just for the hell of it.
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From what you posted there is no way to know what your leadership style is or what your personality is and therefore where your weaknesses might be. However, I'm surprised how many are insisting it's not your fault at all, that your soldiers are merely lazy and entitled; that you should continue imposing your will with blinders on. The short answer is you probably are inexperienced. Being an effective leader takes effort and desire to learn about the people you are leading. You can't lead people that you don't like. You also can't pick up the slack for these peers you refer to that aren't enforcing standards, - as you are finding out, they just aren't appreciating you, you are not their savior. Always keep an open mind and be receptive to feedback from subordinates. Keep focused on what your duties are, you are still early in your journey, no one expects you to be a great leader immediately. Being a great leader can take a while. Best of luck.
LTC Robin P.
"You can't lead people you don't like." I completely disagree. We lead everyone assigned to our unit/team, we don't get to pick and choose. Good leaders will be absolutely fair to all of their subordinates. My star performer is late today for no good reason? I'd better counsel him just like I did to my weak performer who was late yesterday. My rag-bag soldier who barely meets standards comes up with a great idea that makes the team more effective? I'd better accept it, praise him for it, and even credit him with the idea when I share it with other team leaders. Leaders also need to keep a little distance between themselves and their soldiers. We are human and will have our preferences and emotions, but we should do our best not to show it and we need to be conscious that we don't let our personal biases take away from our soldiers.
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It was a short statement meant to encompass more. A leader still has to respect people and be fair. Bias always shows up when you don't like them. People like to believe that they are fair and impartial but the reality is that they are not. So, the statement remains true in form. I'm not going to get sidetracked on leader effectiveness and bias/fairness.
I would say to the poster, that I'm guessing she is about 5 (more or less) years out of high school. Think of the teachers/leaders that inspired her to be her best and the ones who are effective teachers. Of course they were disciplined and fair to all. But, I guarantee they were personable, well liked and liked all students.
I would say to the poster, that I'm guessing she is about 5 (more or less) years out of high school. Think of the teachers/leaders that inspired her to be her best and the ones who are effective teachers. Of course they were disciplined and fair to all. But, I guarantee they were personable, well liked and liked all students.
If I hadn’t looked at who the writer was, I would have thought I had wrote this comment before. Except for the “bitch” part, I was not really liked either by other NCOs or the Command, at least that’s how I perceived it and some did say, I too, was condescending. I did observe who the “favorite, likable and casual” NCOs were. Their sections ran well and those that were under them, loved them. I often questioned myself too, and feared that I would suck as an NCO. By some reactions, as least I thought so, I probably did in some areas. Live and learn. Now that I’ve been a civilian for the last eight years, the pressure is off me and if a group of civilians want to act stupid and jump off a bridge, don’t involve me! I'm done being a leader, since no one appreciated my leadership.
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I am glad that you are questioning yourself. Too many do not look at themselves to assess whether they are doing what is right. As many others have said standards are established for a reason, and they are to establish a minimum level of expectations. Enforcing standard will always be looked at the mediocre as onerous and overreaching. Congratulations on making it to the NCO corps, and as long as you lead by example you will be respected by those that should be respected.
Wanting your soldiers to like you is as feckless as wanting them to fear you. You want them to respect you and to trust you, and you earn that by setting standards, enforcing them and being fair, honest and striving to be the best soldier you can be. If you worry about being a bad NCO, well, you're probably a decent NCO trying to be better. Change behaviors that make you wonder about yourself.
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I am not going to give you automatic praise as everyone else here has. Why are you asking this question here? Is it really professional to air your unit's dirty laundry on a social media website? I don't think so. If you are having issues, this should be a topic of discussion with your chain of command, not strangers on RallyPoint. Because you posted this here, it does make me question your judgment. Is it really mature and disciplined to complain about your soldiers on social media? Would your superiors be happy to know you are telling the world that the troops in your unit are undisciplined? Perhaps you should look inwardly and think more about your own behavior before you try to enforce (not inforce) standards.
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I posted this on a bad day, but I did leave out specific issues. On top of that I do not have my unit or my real name on here for the sake of privacy. I do speak to my chain of command about these issues and steps to rectify said issues have been taken. However, I believe seaking help and guidance shouldn't be chastised. Yes this is a social media platform, but it is one specifically for military personnel and those are the type of people that can offer more help to those seaking it on these kinds of issues. I'm looking for ways to learn and grow beyond the specific people in my unit on here because they have a different variety of expiciences, cannot judge purely on the specific individuals in the unit, and only know me based on the way I phrased a question.
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