Posted on Aug 23, 2016
SFC Drill Sergeant Leader
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I have already typed up my own pcs award and now I'm being told to type up my won NCOER. I am starting to get pissed off at how lazy people in my troop are. I will provide bullet points but for me to type the whole this is absolutely outrageous.
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1SG Mike Case
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Are you suppose to? Of course the answer is no, but because of lazy leaders who think they don't have the time to properly counsel their subordinates, they pawn it off of them. Use this as a lesson learned and to not become that lazy type of NCO. Take the time to counsel your Soldiers. Trust me, Soldiers want leaders who are invested in them and their careers.
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Well said 1SG. Very true. This gives you time to actually learn how to do one if you have never wrote one up for someone.
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1SG(P) Drill Sergeant
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Hey Brother- jump on it then. Sad to say you have to make this happen but nothing will get done if you don't take care of yourself when stuff like this happens. If you need help with let someone know. Send me a note of still no luck.
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LTC Charles T Dalbec
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No but you need to provide what you feel are your strengths and weaknesses allowing chain of command to provide accurate comments. Hooah??
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Am I supposed to write my own NCOER?
SFC Michael Hasbun
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Supposed to? No. But be grateful for the opportunity, If your rater is too lazy to do their job, you go ahead and write that thing so it sounds like Audie Murphy should have had to go to YOUR board!
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Roger that. I already did it and finessed the hell out of it
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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no you are not , i dont know how in the first place in the new system.
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I was wondering the same thing. If I remember correctly with the new system you have to use the Raters CAC to even initiate the NCOER. But I haven't had to write one yet so I might be Mistaken.
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CSM Bn Ssa
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No you aren't supposed to write your own eval. But you are responsible for what is on your support forms. The information on your support forms is geared toward helping the rater create your NCOER. That being said do not ever trust anyone with your career. I usually write up my own and provide supporting documents to my rater and ask them to agree/disagree/change the comments.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
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SFC (Join to see) Let me see if I understand you: you are mad because you have to write your very own evaluation?
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SFC Fire Support Nco
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Ha true Sir when they write it for you and you get a 5/5 or not qualified for the new ones then you have something to be mad about.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
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Thouché!
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SFC Fire Support Nco
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I'm guessing you know you're not "supposed" to. I can not confirm nor deny if I have written my own NCOER before myself. I will say it happens.
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SSG Aircraft Pneudraulics Repairer
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One of my biggest peeves. Many senior leaders feel as if the rated NCO needs to keep up and write it all. A rating isn’t supposed to be a brag list, it’s supposed to be developmental and your overall performance with goals set for you. The sad part is, I’ve only seen NCOERs done correctly maybe twice. It’s an excellent tool for both ends of the NCOER. Unfortunately, it is pawned off and abused into a worthless sheet of facts. The Army promotes too fast not allowing for maturity and experience to develop. Unless this issue is resolved, we’ll continue losing excellent leaders.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Sometimes you need to write it or edit it. As a small staff corps, we are frequently assigned to jobs where our FITREP is written by a Doc, line type, etc. who have no knowledge of the professional skill set, buzzwords, etc. Other times you have a Det way out there and the Reporting Senior won't know everything you've done. The important thing is, even if you don't write it, is you want to make sure all your good stuff gets into it.
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