Posted on Nov 14, 2014
SGT(P) Karen Lonn
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Since I arrived at my new duty station, I have heard several SMs discussing the new PT uniform. Some of these discussions have been in passing, and I did not even know them. But I am surprised that the vast majority are against the new look. What are your thoughts?
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MAJ George Hamilton
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I challenge anyone to explain to me in a manner that will make me understand why on God's green earth these Soldiers are wearing reflective belts.

It is absolutely absurd.
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SGT Nodal Network Systems Operators/Maintainer
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So we don't get hurt. See the pt belt acts as a Chuck Norris force field and absorbs any damage that may be taken
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SPC Steven Garcia
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Yes, if the pt uniform is reflective, a reflective belt is not needed.
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SSG Squad Leader
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SIR!

Because 1 idiot told them all to.

Good day.
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CPO Hospital Corpsman
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From what I saw at AAFES the new PT uniform is *not* reflective. However, why would a reflective belt be needed for a formation of 100 Soldiers conducting PT in the middle of a running track? Why would a reflective belt be needed in the gym, weight room, or basketball court? Why would a reflective belt be needed in the DFAC? Why would a reflective belt be needed in the PX? Why are PT belts required at a FOB?
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1LT Chaplain Candidate
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I pine for a day when PT belts go away...
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SGT Veterans Advocate
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It will change again in a few years anyway, it's a non issue.
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SFC Small Group Leader
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I LOVE the new PT uniforms. The look, fit and practicality is so much better. I appreciate the softness of the jacket and pants, the moisture wicking shirt is a tremendous improvement on the old ones. I feel like stains won't be as much an issue as with the old shirts. Affordability was surprising. I purchased an entire issue set for $145.00. Really the only con to the look of the new PTs is the fact that the PT belt looks dumb in the winters. Shouldn't be much of an issue now with spring around the corner.
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SPC Steven Garcia
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SSG, outstanding pt uniform review.
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CPT Hhc Company Commander
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Likes: Color is good...less sweat showing. Light weight shirt is nice to a point....helps with breathing during the run. I like the longer "undies" so the dudes don't have to worry about accidentally catchin' a glimpse of "the twins" when holding feet for sit-ups. Also, the shorts are longer than the "daisy dukes".

Dislikes: They are built cheaply, shirt is semi-transparent too.....so does a womans bra show through requiring a black bra? Winter weight clothing is not much heavier than summer weight clothing. I liked the reflective V that the IPFU had.....why don't we have it on this? $160 for a full set is ridiculous...especially for that cheap of a thing.
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SFC Deputy Station Commander
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Sir, I don't like the thin material it's not good for our Soldiers in colder weather. The yellow on black is good on the eyes. I prefer the ACU print on the old Grey design that was good especially in the dark. and the T-shirts are no better than a pack of Haynes white T's. I was thinking more of a dri-fit material would've been better.
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CPT Hhc Company Commander
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I was shocked at how this stuff is cheap. The fact that it's semi transparent really bugs me, as it means that females need black sports bras....just seems like the whole thing isn't really necessary.
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SFC Deputy Station Commander
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i agree.
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CPT Hhc Company Commander
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The reason that I put "Keep the old look" has nothing to do with the LOOK though. These new PT uniforms are cheaply made and so lightweight on the winter side that they serve no purpose.

On the plus side, the shorts are longer, and the underwear goes down the legs....this is good news for guys who are holding their battle buddies legs, although I think we will all continue to stare awkwardly at the ceiling so that we don't have to worry about un-seeing anything.

As far as the downside...well, the shirts are partially see-through. This means that women need to ensure that they have black sports bras and it's easy to tell who doesn't remove their dog tags in the PTs. The winter weight shirt, pants, *AND* jacket are all lighter than the preceding version. Why have a winter weight jacket/pant/shirt set if it's only going to issue you warmth if you are at 45 degrees or higher???

I don't care what color they are....I care about function. Don't give me somethin' where one of the twins hangs lower than the shorts.....and look at the arenas that ALL of our troops are serving in. "Winterweight PTs" that are only useful in Florida mean possible safety concerns for our boys and girls in Minnesota.
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CPT Obstetrics and Gyneco
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If the shirt is truly as transparent as you say it is, women should be wearing bras that match their skin tone not a jarring black bra so you can see the borders.
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COL Jon Thompson
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I am happy I don't have to buy another uniform but I like the colors and from what I can tell, the uniform is more comfortable. In 30 years, I went from the banana suit to unit PTs to the gray PTs to the IPFU. Now I think they got it closer to right and I am retired.
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CW3 Standardization Officer
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My feelings on the new uniform are a bit contradictory. On one hand, I am excited about the new uniform for the improvements in material and functionality. However, at the same time the price and hassle of changing the uniform is a pain. Does one outweigh the other – at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter, this is our new PT uniform. We need to embrace it and move forward. I have enough old PT uniforms to stock a few shelves at clothing and sales, but over the next couple of months I plan on slowly acquiring a few new PT uniform sets. My only wish is to see the PT belt disappear! Hopefully future changes can address this and are small changes instead of a complete redesign.
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SFC Charles S.
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My only question is about this photo... If you have reflective material sewn onto the uniform... WHY the PT Belts???  PT Belts have been the Bane of Existence since even I was around. 
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The last one had reflective material in it too.
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CH (MAJ) William Beaver
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I like them
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