Posted on May 1, 2018
Any 17C that have information on the MOS itself and the training that comes with it?
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17C: Cyber Operations Specialist
Military Intelligence Basic Officer Leader Course (MIBOLC)
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It’s about a year or more of reasonably good training. We spend 6 months in Pensacola and go through training along side other branches of the military. After that we come to Gordon to finish our last 5 months. You learn alot of basic fundamental stuff about computers and networks. Nothing super in depth. 95% of 17C will get stationed at either Meade or Gordon. The lucky 5% go to Hawaii or San Antonio. If you wanna switch just assume you know absolutely nothing about computers and how they work and you’ll be fine.
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1. Yes, there is a computer literacy test you need to take before reclass. I took it with zero knowledge of computers and passed so it’s not too difficult.
2. Yes they start like everybody knows nothing. They even say knowing nothing helps make things easier because you accept what they say and you don’t try and prove them wrong.
3. There are MOS-T barracks at both phases of the course. They try and keep MOS-T and IET soldiers as separate as possible.
4. Day to day varies based on where you go. Offensive units operate completely different than defensive units. You can either work a normal 9-4 schedule Monday- Friday or work 12 hours shifts.
5. Each phase is broken up into modules. Each module has a test at the end based on just that module. Some are more difficult than others but none of them are impossible to pass if you put in the necessary study time.
If you want to pre-study I suggest learn the basics of operating systems like Windows and Linux. Those are usually the 2 hardest modules as well.
1. Yes, there is a computer literacy test you need to take before reclass. I took it with zero knowledge of computers and passed so it’s not too difficult.
2. Yes they start like everybody knows nothing. They even say knowing nothing helps make things easier because you accept what they say and you don’t try and prove them wrong.
3. There are MOS-T barracks at both phases of the course. They try and keep MOS-T and IET soldiers as separate as possible.
4. Day to day varies based on where you go. Offensive units operate completely different than defensive units. You can either work a normal 9-4 schedule Monday- Friday or work 12 hours shifts.
5. Each phase is broken up into modules. Each module has a test at the end based on just that module. Some are more difficult than others but none of them are impossible to pass if you put in the necessary study time.
If you want to pre-study I suggest learn the basics of operating systems like Windows and Linux. Those are usually the 2 hardest modules as well.
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What is the best place to get stationed at? Have you heard opinions from other duty stations?
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SGT (Join to see) it’s really based on what you like. Gordon is a meh base but I love Augusta. It’s small enough to not feel crowded but its also growing so it has enough to do to stay occupied, especially if you love golf. Meade has DC close by. Hawaii is Hawaii and I’ve heard nothing but great things about Texas. JBLM recently opened but idk how it is as a duty station for 17C.
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Sorry I'm a bit late with my response. Out doing cyber stuff.
In AIT expect 6 months of going through a survey of many topics. You'll cover about an inch deep and a mile wide on topics to give you an overview of everything from networking to scripting to operating systems to penetration testing. Follow that up with phase 2 of intermediate level training to take you from an inch deep to a few inches deep in key areas. Then phase 3 training to improve particular skills depending on what kind of cyber unit and assignment you get.
I can go deeper but with a broad question, you get a broad answer. Glad to answer anything that doesn't violate OPSEC.
In AIT expect 6 months of going through a survey of many topics. You'll cover about an inch deep and a mile wide on topics to give you an overview of everything from networking to scripting to operating systems to penetration testing. Follow that up with phase 2 of intermediate level training to take you from an inch deep to a few inches deep in key areas. Then phase 3 training to improve particular skills depending on what kind of cyber unit and assignment you get.
I can go deeper but with a broad question, you get a broad answer. Glad to answer anything that doesn't violate OPSEC.
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17C is under the US Army Cyber Command which is part of the CYBERCOM. The other components are Fleet Cyber Command/10th Fleet, Air Forces Cyber/24th Air Force and Marine Corps Forces Cyberspace Command.
https://www.cybercom.mil/
NSA's HQ is at Ft Meade. Now, what does that have to do with NSA?
https://www.nsa.gov/
"The National Security Agency/Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) leads the U.S. Government in cryptology that encompasses both signals intelligence (SIGINT) and information assurance (now referred to as cybersecurity) products and services, and enables computer network operations (CNO) in order to gain a decision advantage for the Nation and our allies under all circumstances."
Just a general advice, don't do anything stupid or unwise that will jeopardize your security clearance.
https://www.cybercom.mil/
NSA's HQ is at Ft Meade. Now, what does that have to do with NSA?
https://www.nsa.gov/
"The National Security Agency/Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) leads the U.S. Government in cryptology that encompasses both signals intelligence (SIGINT) and information assurance (now referred to as cybersecurity) products and services, and enables computer network operations (CNO) in order to gain a decision advantage for the Nation and our allies under all circumstances."
Just a general advice, don't do anything stupid or unwise that will jeopardize your security clearance.
The official website for the U.S. Cyber Command
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Training may not always be the same. Newer information and technical information changes things up all the time.
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I'm just curious...are you comp sci (CS) or IT undergrad right now? Were you wanting direct commission cyber? That just crossed my mind, reading what you'd sent...I'd be interested, if you'd care to elaborate at all..I have an interest in such things, many thanks....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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They do mil transcripts also....
They do mil transcripts also....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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Some places as I'd said MIGHT still give undergrad pass fail credit blocks for a minimum raw score on these, they're not easy, I assure you, I did sevl, I'm also not sure if it's done any longer, not percentile minimum, I'm speaking of minimum raw scores...
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All I know is that training is at pensacol and then fort Gordon. Bases are Huachuca, Gordon, Belvoir, and Meade.
In theory, they exist, and supposedly day in a life of 17C happens- but I've never seen it personally.
I just know training takes place in a SCIF, and lasts 9-10 hours a day.
In theory, they exist, and supposedly day in a life of 17C happens- but I've never seen it personally.
I just know training takes place in a SCIF, and lasts 9-10 hours a day.
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I've heard the ones that were waiting for Phase II training were just doing busy work like mowing CSM's grass.
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