Posted on Feb 6, 2018
Any Warrent Officers out there that can help me with WOFT?
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Any Warrent Officers that can help me with WOFT? I am 17 and when I turn 18 I would like to send in a packet. I have my private pilots license and that should help. My recruiter said I'm to young and don't have a degree so have a very slim chance of being accepted. Antbody out there can give me insite on how to better my chances? And is there any way I could get in?
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First off, you need to be talking to Warrant Officer Recruiting if you want to go that route. The link I posted early had a schedule of briefings, find the one closest to you and email the contact listed about your interest and how to attend. These guys will give you a realistic assessment of whether it will be worth your time to try the High School to Flight School or enlist and try a different route. Read the information on the Contact Page and go through the FAQ and the requirements, then E-mail the contact listed on the briefing you prefer to attend.
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I know several WO1s who came to WOCS directly from high school and are now flying. Being a civilian you will deal only with a normal recruiter, not a warrant officer recruiter. They work specifically with active duty applicants. The forums on verticalreference.com have some great insight as far as what other applicants are submitting paketwise and what is getting selected.
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Your packet will be compared against other people with degrees and licenses and the like. Your packet just needs to be super competitive. High ASVAB, SIFT scores. And killer letters of Recommendation will help.
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William Hay
So you think I have a shot at 18 if I have a private pilots license, great LOR, and some other achievements? I can get in the 80s on my ASVAB and my pilots license will help on the SIFT I am also studying for it. Casey McCammon
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Casey McCammon
Just be careful. The hidden figures portion on the actual SIFT was nothing like any of the study guides. And I’m not going to lie, being 18 isn’t to your advantage. But the other things should help to balance it out. Also, nailing the board interview. They will get a good sense at the type of person you are.
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Casey McCammon
No worries. I just finished putting my packet in so it’s pretty fresh in my mind. Also do not sluff off on your PFT. It’s not worth as many points as high test scores but you do still have to pass it so you might as well ace it
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Nonsense, test scores get you in, maturity level is big and show great desire. Be persistent. Don’t give up, you can get accepted at a young age and getting your license shows that you have the talent. Contact Army HRC and get the ball rolling.
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Make sure you are getting with a recruiter that is actually going to help you put in the packet. Most will come up with some excuse on why they don’t think you should put one in. As said before, make your packet competitive because only 25% of selections are Street to Seat. It sounds to me like your recruiter is just being lazy. Make them work for you, that’s their job!
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I'm totally with you on everything you advised. Keep in mind this percentage doesn't tell the whole story though. Nearly all Street to Seat applicants that actually get their packet to board are being picked up. They make up a minority of candidates (maybe a quarter), but not because their finished packet is denied usually.
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CW2 (Join to see) - I can confirm this. In my selection of street to seat packets, 21 of 23 were selected. The process weeds out non-competitive people naturally, so those that actually get their packet completed and submitted have a relatively high chance of being selected.
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WO1 (Join to see) Glad you made it, brother! Hopefully we'll cross paths again soon.
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Should probably do some time in the army if you already enlisted so you can get some good letters of recommendation from your Commander, 1SG, etc..
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I did this route personally, and it worked for me. I think I'll be a better officer for it. However, I don't recommend it for several reasons.
1: Odds. Selection rates for street-to-seat applicants have been exceptionally higher than enlisted candidates.
2. Time. There is a universal shortage of pilots currently. Waiting to put your packet in may place you in a time when it's more competitive.
3. Gamble. Anyone in service will know what the term "depends on your unit" means. You may end up under leaders that love you and want to write great recommendations. Or they could shut you down because you're too valuable to them to lose, or they may not understand that pilots don't have to be seasoned Sergeants in order to go Warrant. Or they might not like you and can't write the killer recommendation you're needing.
I had to gamble for particular reasons, so I enlisted first, and I was quite fortunate to get selected. In hindsight, I wouldn't change anything, but I walked a fine line that easily could have gone differently.
I hope this helps.
1: Odds. Selection rates for street-to-seat applicants have been exceptionally higher than enlisted candidates.
2. Time. There is a universal shortage of pilots currently. Waiting to put your packet in may place you in a time when it's more competitive.
3. Gamble. Anyone in service will know what the term "depends on your unit" means. You may end up under leaders that love you and want to write great recommendations. Or they could shut you down because you're too valuable to them to lose, or they may not understand that pilots don't have to be seasoned Sergeants in order to go Warrant. Or they might not like you and can't write the killer recommendation you're needing.
I had to gamble for particular reasons, so I enlisted first, and I was quite fortunate to get selected. In hindsight, I wouldn't change anything, but I walked a fine line that easily could have gone differently.
I hope this helps.
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Look into the high school to flight school program. BTW it is Warrant not warrent.
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Join the military, get a degree and more licenses and training under your belts then apply cause being 18 without a lot of education Won’t Help!
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WO1 (Join to see)
You don’t need a degree or military training to get accepted for WOFT. Plenty of high school to flight school applicants get accepted and are now warrants.
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Hey William,
Im also in the process and the best advice I can give you is to do your research and chat with a recruiter. Dont get discouraged if they dont have all the answers right away. Be persistent, and most of all help the recruiter help you. What I mean by that is check out the Warrant Officer recruiting page (http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/index.shtml) and start reading the requirements and downloading the required packet forms.
There are alot of them that you can fill out BEFORE you get to a recruiter, and they will be more apt to help if you if you show up having put in a bit of effort. Yes, they are recruiters, and yes it's their job to help, but they are also human and will greatly appreciate an applicant who takes ownership of the process.
If you need some more help, shoot me a message and Ill help where I can :)
Im also in the process and the best advice I can give you is to do your research and chat with a recruiter. Dont get discouraged if they dont have all the answers right away. Be persistent, and most of all help the recruiter help you. What I mean by that is check out the Warrant Officer recruiting page (http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/index.shtml) and start reading the requirements and downloading the required packet forms.
There are alot of them that you can fill out BEFORE you get to a recruiter, and they will be more apt to help if you if you show up having put in a bit of effort. Yes, they are recruiters, and yes it's their job to help, but they are also human and will greatly appreciate an applicant who takes ownership of the process.
If you need some more help, shoot me a message and Ill help where I can :)
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I'll be writing a new article soon on this, but for now, I'd say put your best foot forward by making good contacts, phone calls, visits, whatever you have to do to get some networking depth. The key thing is getting your packet submitted as soon as possible. It needs to be done correctly, so follow the instructions on the Warrant Officer Recruiting website to the tee. Be honest and passionate. Humility is wonderful in interpersonal relationships, but leave it at the door when you're promoting yourself to a board on paper. Don't go overboard into arrogance, just don't sell yourself short on anything.
You're looking at a time when selection rates are quite high, so while you want to be competitive with degrees, endorsements, licenses, experience, etc., none of that matters if you don't turn in a packet. You can work on your degree once you get in. Be mature for your age, and you'll be fine. If you wait until you're old and have degrees, you'll never know if they'd have taken you years prior. If this is your goal, your passion, and you're dedicated, just get the packet in sooner rather than later my friend.
You're looking at a time when selection rates are quite high, so while you want to be competitive with degrees, endorsements, licenses, experience, etc., none of that matters if you don't turn in a packet. You can work on your degree once you get in. Be mature for your age, and you'll be fine. If you wait until you're old and have degrees, you'll never know if they'd have taken you years prior. If this is your goal, your passion, and you're dedicated, just get the packet in sooner rather than later my friend.
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I’m in flight school now with some “street to seat guys” now and some of them got picked up without a degree. I would say your chances would be better enlisting as a crew chief or infantry first but it wouldn’t hurt to go ahead a submit it and see what happens. The Army is hurting for pilots right now and expanding flight school to get more students in.
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