APFU Pants: Why do I have to take them off when it's between 35-50° F?

I think the real question is as far as the new pt uniform goes what is a thin sheet of plastic covering your legs actually doing

Well being a 1SG and stationed at Fort Wainwright AK as a company we would do PT in the bays at the motorpool and when it was time to go on our many company run we would put on our hear and go running. When it comes to PT Test of course you would take off your jacket.

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It's just plain stupidity and not caring about their Soldiers

I was stationed at Ft Campbell then Ft Hood and we wore short sleeve t-shirts, shorts, reflective belt, with gloves and skull cap in the middle of January and February all the time. They told us it was to acclimate us to the changing weather...I thought otherwise, but I kept my mouth shut!

In those temperatures we wore our beanie, gloves, unit sweatshirt, reflective pt belt, and shorts. We brought pants, but they stayed in our cars, or in the barracks rooms. We huddled up like penguins for heat, then jumped into formation, shivering quietly to ourselves before getting released to do pt. We loved that part, as it meant you were going to do something to get warm. Thus, we didn't have the shedding of the pants dilemma.

Gee, how about letting people wear pants, jackets, and hats/gloves according to their comfort in the conditions at hand? Like, oh, maybe, ADULTS? At my age, I have a much different tolerance for cold than a 20ish youngster with an adolescent's metabolic rate. And do the sergeants have nothing better to do than tell people to take their pants off at PT? Really?

If you have been stationed at Fort Drum and then went somewhere else, you will surely know the answer. If you wear the pants and jacket when it is not below 40, you are going to be hurting when the temps do drop. Also, Soldiers will wear all the cold weather gear, and what is the first thing they want to do when PT is over, take it off because they are too hot, which leads to pneumonia and we all know how excellent health care is, everything is Sinusitis.

There is one simple answer to this question - "Because I am the 1SG, this is my formation, and I said so" The End

If the unit is in control of itself, and the CPT and 1SG can make the call, then uniform should be based on the temperature and wind-chill for that specific date. Some units will come in, in full winter PT's, and simply downgrade if the exercise for that day is aerobics, running, etc. You should almost always remove the pants on a run day (after the warm-up) when it is 39 degrees or above.

Then again, some Company Command teams do not get the choice and go by the guidance of their Battalion.

The only thing that bothered me was when some (not all) of the units I've been in, went by Brigade or Post guidance and on specific dates.
For Example: The whole Brigade will switch to Winter PT's on 15-NOV-2017.

I don't quite agree on that, especially if the whole brigade is NOT participating in Daily PT like the Companies are. I know this is a way to ensure and keep uniformity within a Brigade, but I think it is too extreme to try to keep uniformity at that level of echelon.

Back in my command days, I was fortunate enough to be given the choice for my Company. Myself and 1SG would always get up around 0400 and check the weather and make the call based on the weather report for that day (weather can vary extremely within 24 hours, so its best to check it several hours out). We would then send out a mass text 1 1/2 hours prior to formation for the PT Uniform.

I don't mind being cold, as long as there was some thought to it, rather than basing it on a date.