Posted on Apr 9, 2014
APFU Pants: Why do I have to take them off when it's between 35-50° F?
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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. We form up in full Winter APFUs because it's friggin cold outside, and the 1SG tells us to take our pants off. WHY? It's COLD!
Am I the only person in the military who gets cold when my legs are exposed to cold air and wind? We usually just stand there waiting for who knows what to start the formation usually after it was supposed to begin. I once had to take an APFT at Ft. Huachuca while it was 30° with a really cold wind. We had to take off our pants for that one. Too cold. Way too cold. Am I just bitching? Is this because I am a Floridian?
All I really want to know is why do senior NCOs make this call? Can't we take the pants off when we actually start PT?
Am I the only person in the military who gets cold when my legs are exposed to cold air and wind? We usually just stand there waiting for who knows what to start the formation usually after it was supposed to begin. I once had to take an APFT at Ft. Huachuca while it was 30° with a really cold wind. We had to take off our pants for that one. Too cold. Way too cold. Am I just bitching? Is this because I am a Floridian?
All I really want to know is why do senior NCOs make this call? Can't we take the pants off when we actually start PT?
APFU
Physical Training
Formation
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At the IOAC at Ft Benning in 1975, we had two Marine officers in the class. They did PT by themselves, because the Marine Corps had different PT standards.
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MAJ Ronald Mandell
Yup! Not doubt about that! As. Marine, we completed the entire PT test on boots, including the running portion. We also had pull ups, with palms forward.
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This wholething seems downright silly. It's PT, not a parade. So, who cares about absolute uniformity? Wear whatever components of the PT uniform you need to perform well, let others do the same, and worry about something important.
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Uniformity and always follow the orders from the ones assigned above our pay grade; could always run in place or exercise while you await formation PT. This question would not have been ask while I served, the military has become so soft.
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The reason is that its warm at those temperatures. When you're stationed in Alaska and its -20 to -30 for a month and suddenly you hit +5, its a heat wave. Its not uncommon to see people around Fairbanks wearing shorts and t-shirts. Does it suck while you're standing around? Sure. Once you start moving though you'll be fine.
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when I was in the change date for PT uniforms was set by DOA, many where the days running in shorts and tennis shoes in blizzard conditions with a foot of snow. Now then as now some folks thought it prepared you to survive winter better. Well all it did for me was increase my VA Percentage for cold weather injuries which do not go away. it may be traditional command decision. I.e. it has been done this way all the time. Commands like to compete with each other, at Ft. Hood 2nd AD and 1st Cav where competing to see who could stay out in the field the longest. I got a certificate for being in the field for 287 days one year. So what I am saying it may be command completion.
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
Been there done that, and I wasn't even in the service LOL. Cross Country season runs to late November/Early December depending on how far you go into the championships. I have run races with the coach waiting at the end to hand me my sweats as I finished.
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You're a warrant officer; what are you even doing standing in a formation? Why don't you Casper like the rest of the CWs'
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Chief, at least your not at Ft. McCoy. Where it doesn't matter what you wear, it's goons be cold
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Well request through the Commander to develop an SOP with specific temperatures to coincide with a specific uniform... and I agree with you, except usually on the other end. It's 60 degrees outside and I'm wearing a short sleeve, long sleeve, and jacket
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