Posted on Apr 5, 2021
Are people allowed to wear OCP bottoms with a civilian top?
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Two recent situations brought this question up for me. A ltc posted pictures of themselves posed in ocp bottoms and civilian top while out on a recreational hike. There is also a ruck scheduled this week with uniform being ocp bottom and civilian tops. Very odd. And from my understanding, generally neither of these things are allowed. Ar 670-1 says "Civilian clothing f. No part of a prescribed uniform, except those items not exclusively military in character, may be worn with civilian clothing", so I'm wondering what is going on here
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I will treat this as a serious question, and try to give a serious answer. Questions posted in RP should be given respectful and thoughtful answers.
First, how much like civilian wear are the OCB bottoms? If the look like bottoms a lot of people wear for, say, a fashion, then I say that it's not a big deal. For example, I once had a pair of pants that looked very much like the double-knit blue pants worn with the uniform. But, they weren't...I just got them at the department store; they looked fashionable. I was approached about it, but I explained (well...see above) and that was that.
On the other hand, if an article clearly looks like it would be part of a uniform, then it's part of a uniform, and should be worn only with the uniform.
As far as the OCB's in question, there might be a grey area. If the LTC's retired, cut 'm a break.
First, how much like civilian wear are the OCB bottoms? If the look like bottoms a lot of people wear for, say, a fashion, then I say that it's not a big deal. For example, I once had a pair of pants that looked very much like the double-knit blue pants worn with the uniform. But, they weren't...I just got them at the department store; they looked fashionable. I was approached about it, but I explained (well...see above) and that was that.
On the other hand, if an article clearly looks like it would be part of a uniform, then it's part of a uniform, and should be worn only with the uniform.
As far as the OCB's in question, there might be a grey area. If the LTC's retired, cut 'm a break.
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There are so many variables to this. Are the bottoms OCP or MultiCam? MultiCam isn't a uniform anymore and can be worm to change the oil in the car. As for uniform variations, while they don't follow reg if you see the entire unit in the same uniform is was directed. The commander sets the uniform for the occasion. While it may not follow regs the commander does have latitude in this situation. Have you ever seen a unit do a ruck march in the summer APFU and wearing boots? I have. The bottom line is that if the CDR and 1SG approve the uniform for the situation, that will be the uniform you wear.
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Tom Dinkle
Ocp. And the ltc just wearing ocp bottoms while out on a hike in his yard? That was what seemed weirdest to me
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