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Having visited many countries during my service, I saw the pros and cons of mandatory service. So my question to the community is, Should America stay a voluntary service, or should we implement the Mandatory Service requirements for our youth?
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I oppose conscription with every fiber of my being.
The only way I would be for mandatory service is if it was as an UN paid reserve (militia) status and you only attended 2 weeks of initial training (maybe during high school).
The only way I would be for mandatory service is if it was as an UN paid reserve (militia) status and you only attended 2 weeks of initial training (maybe during high school).
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SSgt (Join to see)
LTC (Join to see) - I shudder at that thought and is particularly heinous at this time. I don't give a darn what the world expects (us staying to home) to do. I think we are heading to an apocalypse if our Congress does do what they can do to fix this.
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SFC(P) (Join to see)
As a society, every able-bodied person, at a minimum, should be taught what they should do in the event of an emergency. Failure to do this exposes us to an inevitable collapse whether because of a man-made or natural event.
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More like back to the point of mandatory service. I would like to see this happen, although with the entitlement generation coming into it's own, well it may not be wise. There are some who would benefit from serving in the military, and some who are serving who don't seem to grasp what it means to wear the uniforms of our armed forces. My only hope is that if we go back to mandatory 2 year service commitments or longer, they aren't or won't be trained by the latter group. So much for my .02
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Unless there is a *drastic* change worldwide that compels the full mobilization of the industrial strength of the United States, I would rather have the military stay all-volunteer. I'd rather sit in a foxhole with another joe that wants to be there instead of someone who was forced under the weight of law.
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No.
As much as I feel every able bodied civilian would benefit from a standard term of military service, I do not want them in MINE. I would rather focus on a force of quality than quantity.
As much as I feel every able bodied civilian would benefit from a standard term of military service, I do not want them in MINE. I would rather focus on a force of quality than quantity.
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I think Israel has it going on with their policy. I remember in High School, when the twins had to return home to join the Army between junior and senior year for training or they could not keep their dual citizenship. Am I paranoid thinking that not only is it reality if a 2 war front is possible, then a 3 war front can't be ruled out as an option? Everytime this kid hears draw down, I flash back to pre-WWII levels, those poor Task Force Smith veterans, Vietnam, Desert Storm, etc. I would support it. I will be first in line if there is way to return to active duty. Why have a draft when we can send our troops 3,5, 8 times and then piss and moan that it is expensive to give adequate post military care (sarcasm & contempt implied). Are we there yet? Not at the moment, but how quickly things can change.
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SSG John Bacon
Yes very quickly. Just put everyone on Tricare Sadly it's better than "Affordable (not) Health Care Act" anyway. open a Basic Training Post in Every State teach everyone basic marksmanship and first aid throw in some D&C and push them out the door with POC's if the Shmit hits the fan and tell them if we need you we will call and they are now subject to UCMJ action if they F up or don't come when called.
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SGT (Join to see)
Unfortunately I think with the mind set of today's society it could never happen, because we as a country are still not on the same page when it comes to love for our country. There are the ones of us that raised our hand and volunteered to serve and then you have those people that either can not or will not follow suit. Not everyone is cut out for military life, and I can see it every time I go on leave and visit family from my home town. If this is was implemented in the United States I would for see lawsuits upon lawsuits for everything under the sun because some people just do not want to step up to the challenge. Â
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Do I think that we should have compulsory military service no. Look at the mess that the National Call to Service program caused after it was implemented.
I do not know if the other services had issues, but we have had several in the Navy side. We have kids that entered under National Call to Service, 2 years active, 2 years Reserve. Well most of these "kids" are just getting done with their "A" School (Tech School, Advanced Training) by the time they are coming up on the end of their second year and now all of a sudden they are in the Reserves and have no clue what is going on. I am not blaming the Sailor here, just giving an example.
But...... I do think that the youth of our nation should be required to do some sort of community service. Our society really is loosing our sense of community, country and family in my opinion.
I do not know if the other services had issues, but we have had several in the Navy side. We have kids that entered under National Call to Service, 2 years active, 2 years Reserve. Well most of these "kids" are just getting done with their "A" School (Tech School, Advanced Training) by the time they are coming up on the end of their second year and now all of a sudden they are in the Reserves and have no clue what is going on. I am not blaming the Sailor here, just giving an example.
But...... I do think that the youth of our nation should be required to do some sort of community service. Our society really is loosing our sense of community, country and family in my opinion.
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SGT Jones, this is a question I have considered for many years. I firmly believe we should implement a mandatory service - much like Germany has - either military or "civil service" for everyone. Say two years or 18 months. And then participants might get two years of college paid for free, under a new version of the GI bill.
I spent just over 30 years on active duty in the Army, and I am SO glad that I spent my first four years in the Infantry. There I learned about the "real Army" and those lessons served me well for the next 26 years in military intelligence.
I submit that a mandatory service period - either military or civil - would help our youth mature, grow up, learn a sense of duty, honor, country, and be better citizens.
I spent just over 30 years on active duty in the Army, and I am SO glad that I spent my first four years in the Infantry. There I learned about the "real Army" and those lessons served me well for the next 26 years in military intelligence.
I submit that a mandatory service period - either military or civil - would help our youth mature, grow up, learn a sense of duty, honor, country, and be better citizens.
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So it look slike a majority opposes Mandatory military service, but is that opposition as strong if it were purely a civil duty, (Police Force, Sherriff's Dept, Firefighting, Maybe a specialized military service focused on helping the needs of the country rather than a fighting force.) Would you opposition ring as loud to these thoughts, as they do to Mandatory Military Service?
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I think it's a good thing that we as a nation don't use conscription. All the other points about retention rates, whether or not they meet the standards we uphold, are well said, but consider this: As a society that holds ourselves as the model of democracy, lovers of freedom and liberty, what does it say about us that we would force our citizens to defend the republic?
Conscripting troops would be akin to slavery, which is in direct opposition to our values as Americans....
With that being said, there is still the issue of the civil-military divide. A draft would do a lot to heal that, because more people would understand us.
Conscripting troops would be akin to slavery, which is in direct opposition to our values as Americans....
With that being said, there is still the issue of the civil-military divide. A draft would do a lot to heal that, because more people would understand us.
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SSG Oliver Mathews - I see two big issues here. The first of course is the proper number of veterans to get the job done and the second, is the damage being done to morale.
Because of the latter, the draft may be necessary because of the former. I hate social scientists with an agenda. (He hate me) lol
Because of the latter, the draft may be necessary because of the former. I hate social scientists with an agenda. (He hate me) lol
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