Posted on Jul 24, 2015
Armed civilian misfires AR-15 while guarding a recruiting station. Thoughts on civilians guarding points of interest?
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http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/local/2015/07/23/armed-volunteer-fires-shot/30574117/
I read an article about one of the civilians misfiring his AR-15 while standing guard by a recruiting station. Thankfully, nobody was hurt but it does not excuse the lack of trigger discipline. Now, I'm aware that not all civilians are as careless as this, but there are a few people out there who are trying to do what they think is right, but they do not have the training required. Therefore, I feel that it can do more harm than good if the guards are not prepared.
I ask RallyPoint because I'm curious as to what other veterans think. True, a lot of the volunteers standing guard probably have trigger discipline and training with said weapon. However, I would not say that 100% of them have the bearing, which makes me believe that a few of them are doing a lot more harm than good. By no means am I saying that all armed civilians are undisciplined (hell, some of them can teach me a thing or two), but there are a few of them that could use a bit more.... attention, as said in the article.
So my question is, do you think that armed civilians standing guard next to points of interest is for the benefit of the good, or are they going overboard? Personally, I think that the recruiters themselves should be assigned a weapon to them in self defense and be trained on it. Though, this is just my opinion and would like to hear about what the community thinks.
(Sorry for the wall of text)
I read an article about one of the civilians misfiring his AR-15 while standing guard by a recruiting station. Thankfully, nobody was hurt but it does not excuse the lack of trigger discipline. Now, I'm aware that not all civilians are as careless as this, but there are a few people out there who are trying to do what they think is right, but they do not have the training required. Therefore, I feel that it can do more harm than good if the guards are not prepared.
I ask RallyPoint because I'm curious as to what other veterans think. True, a lot of the volunteers standing guard probably have trigger discipline and training with said weapon. However, I would not say that 100% of them have the bearing, which makes me believe that a few of them are doing a lot more harm than good. By no means am I saying that all armed civilians are undisciplined (hell, some of them can teach me a thing or two), but there are a few of them that could use a bit more.... attention, as said in the article.
So my question is, do you think that armed civilians standing guard next to points of interest is for the benefit of the good, or are they going overboard? Personally, I think that the recruiters themselves should be assigned a weapon to them in self defense and be trained on it. Though, this is just my opinion and would like to hear about what the community thinks.
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I really appreciate the citizen and Veteran show of support and solidarity with our recruiters. Until our recruiters and other personnel in softer security areas are able to legally defend themselves, should recruiters pull guard mount inspection on volunteer guards to include weapons status?
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Others have brought up the point that we have not vetted these volunteers, and this is a great way to get another bad guy in close. Should we possibly require a training course with a back ground check for these volunteers?
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Others have brought up the point that we have not vetted these volunteers, and this is a great way to get another bad guy in close. Should we possibly require a training course with a back ground check for these volunteers?
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To me, if I see someone defending an area with a weapon like an AR-15 AND they don't have any sort of paperwork saying that they are qualified to use it, then I immediately go paranoid, even if their intentions are good. It also seems like even though they are guarding a specific point, they can't always see what is ahead of them, and that makes them very, very vulnerable to gunfire in barely visible locations.
Though, I do agree that recruiters should inspect the volunteer guards (background checks, weapon verification, inspection on discipline, etc.) I don't see how much of an improvement it might be.
Though, I do agree that recruiters should inspect the volunteer guards (background checks, weapon verification, inspection on discipline, etc.) I don't see how much of an improvement it might be.
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All great ideas....but the first thing to decide is does the DOD condone it......allowing folks to carry outside a facility in a state that permits open carry is not condoning the actions its simply letting folks exercise their rights.
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