Posted on Jun 19, 2015
Army Plans To Replace M9 In 2018: What are your thoughts on the XM-17 MHS?
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The Army announced this week that it has approved it's concept design of it's new XM-17 Modular Handgun System and is now ready to begin the contract-bidding process. The Army says the plan is to begin replacing the M9 with the XM-17 in FY 18. Unlike the M9 and it's predecessor the 1911, the XM-17's modular platform will enable the weapon to be tailored to the preference of individual shooters or to meet unique mission-critical needs.
What are your thoughts on the XM-17 MHS?
What are your thoughts on the XM-17 MHS?
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Responses: 20
SGM Steve Wettstein
I have never shot a .40 either. I think they are a mix of .40s and .45s. I wonder how much of a difference .05 makes? They talk about the large recoil when moving up from a 9mm. When I first shot my Glock 21, I didn't notice a difference from the M9 (have I mentioned I hate the M9). I was waiting for the big recoil like the 1911 but it never happened and I just laughed while I was shooting.
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SPC Joshua H.
Ok, #1, a .40 is much snappier recoil then a 9mm, but the Army is talking about using hollow-points, so 9mm would be just fine.
#2, the FBI went back to 9mm because science.
#3. .40S&W and 10MM are VASTLY different, only thing that is the same is the diameter of the bullet (and sometimes bullet weight).
#2, the FBI went back to 9mm because science.
#3. .40S&W and 10MM are VASTLY different, only thing that is the same is the diameter of the bullet (and sometimes bullet weight).
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SGT Bryon Sergent
SPC Joshua H. - in which is the same. the casing doesn't hit the target making the bullet the same.
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It is time for a better weapon and the time is now to get it done before the next major conflict. I'd like to see the procurement of a weapon similar to the Kimber Warrior SOC (1911).
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I do not know enough about the XM-17 Modular Handgun System to really make a truly informed statement BUT there appears to be a lot of moving pieces for a general issue weapon? I think we keep trying to get fancy with hand guns and forget they are going to be carried as a backup or a weapon of last resort.
Also, when it comes to knock down power for any weapon, but especially handguns, it is more a matter of the ammo than the weapon itself.
Also, when it comes to knock down power for any weapon, but especially handguns, it is more a matter of the ammo than the weapon itself.
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LTC Paul Labrador
For general issue, it will probably be permanently configured at depot level. Likely only SoF will be allowed to freely modify it.
MAJ (Join to see), most medics carry either an M16 or M4. Typically the only medical types who carry pistols are your providers and senior officers. Even in a CSH, most of the junior nurses (CPT and below) carried M16s.
MAJ (Join to see), most medics carry either an M16 or M4. Typically the only medical types who carry pistols are your providers and senior officers. Even in a CSH, most of the junior nurses (CPT and below) carried M16s.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
MAJ (Join to see) - Sir night sight for MP would be awesome! take a lot out of the trouble sight at night! me pros or tritium would be awesome. The reason i like mepro's they have the 2 got green and orange front. like to see the 435 comeback. Springfield has the xdm in 45 nice weapon!
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MGySgt James Forward
Configurable by the Unit Armorer for hand size. Other options will be determined once the top gun has been selected. Posted the link to the guns in the running a few weeks ago. http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a21102/army-air-force-closer-to-selecting-new-handgun/
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I think it's a great idea. Not only is it going to have more stopping power than the 9mm, it is customizable to fit different mission needs.
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Hopefully this design and production will be spiral-development versus linear development. Linear development tends to focus on requirements and threats up to a certain point in the development process.
Hopefully this development process will not only be able to deal with emerging requirements and threats but also keep pace and exchange development information with parallel uniform, soldier protection [such as body armor], equipment, parachute and airdrop technology, vehicle improvement and modification including rotary and transport aircraft, etc.
Hopefully this development process will not only be able to deal with emerging requirements and threats but also keep pace and exchange development information with parallel uniform, soldier protection [such as body armor], equipment, parachute and airdrop technology, vehicle improvement and modification including rotary and transport aircraft, etc.
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If they want more knockdown power, they HAVE to go w/ the .40 or .45. The 9mm just doesn't pack the punch of those two. the .40 is a good compromise.
Anything that is lighter than "the Hammer" is good. I think that the overall weight, even w/ higher caliber usage, would go down. Polymers are good.
Anything that is lighter than "the Hammer" is good. I think that the overall weight, even w/ higher caliber usage, would go down. Polymers are good.
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SSgt (Join to see)
Perhaps also utilize the 5.7. Nothing quite like firing a small rifle round from a pistol.
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LTC Paul Labrador
SA only. Low magazine capacity. Needs more maintenance than most polymer striker fired pistols.
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Glock is the way to go! I love my G17 and I'm going to get a G42 and G43 in the near future.
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SrA Edward Vong
PO1 John Miller
A G18 has a select fire switch. If somehow that can be converted into a safety switch. I think I might be on to something too LOL.
A G18 has a select fire switch. If somehow that can be converted into a safety switch. I think I might be on to something too LOL.
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PO1 John Miller
SrA Edward Vong
Too bad G18's are totally banned in the US, lol. On a side note, I would LOVE to get my hands on a G18. My wife asked me why I would want a fully automatic pistol and I said "Why not?"
Too bad G18's are totally banned in the US, lol. On a side note, I would LOVE to get my hands on a G18. My wife asked me why I would want a fully automatic pistol and I said "Why not?"
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SrA Edward Vong
PO1 John Miller
They can always unban it for military purposes.
I also like the HK VP70, and the Beretta 93R, but those are only burst fire. Have you shot the TEC-9 before it was banned by any chance?
They can always unban it for military purposes.
I also like the HK VP70, and the Beretta 93R, but those are only burst fire. Have you shot the TEC-9 before it was banned by any chance?
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PO1 John Miller
SrA Edward Vong
Unfortunately I never did get to fire any of those weapons. The only selective fire weapon I've ever had a chance to shoot is the M16.
Unfortunately I never did get to fire any of those weapons. The only selective fire weapon I've ever had a chance to shoot is the M16.
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I like it. The thought of more "knock down" power is very good and the more modular the better. Also, looks like a silencer is part of the kit and that is NOT an option we currently have is it? It sure looks like an upgrade to me.
Thanks, had not seen the design anywhere else.
Rick
Thanks, had not seen the design anywhere else.
Rick
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