Posted on Feb 26, 2015
TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Army folks, please tell me this is a joke?
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MSgt Copeland,

As an Army Sharp rep I will tell you that this may be a joke; a tasteless joke; but is most definitely not real. I hope that some Soldier out there does not think that this can get them out of a bad situation that they put themselves in. A yes can always become a no. Doesn't matter whether it is signed off by both parties 2 minutes ago. It upsets me that Service Members are trying to find ways around doing the right thing instead of just doing the right thing.
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Sgt Adam Jennings
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You mean doing the right thing like say, a female not screaming assault because she regrets having sex with the guy she met the night before? And before you say that doesn't happen, it most certainly does. A female Marine got court martialed in 29 Palms because she claimed rape after letting a bunch of Marines run a train on her. How did she get busted? Cell phone video of her in a very sober state yelling "Give me more!" And "Hardwr, Harder!" And yes, those male Marines were disciplined as well, but at least she didn't get away with a lie like she would have had there been no evidence to the contrary.
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Sgt Adam Jennings - One of the biggest problems is exacerbated by people like that. The problem is that people either assume "oh yeah, she must have wanted it" or the SECOND most popular theory "She brought it on herself."

How do I know this? One of my friends/Soldiers was raped. I won't go into the details, but NOBODY "asks for it" by how they act/dress/etc, and she did everything within reason to ensure that she was safe. She never DID want sex with the person.

It is unfortunate that there is really no way to know, but for a large percentage of rapes there ARE no winners. For the "aggressor" (most stereotypically males), you are assumed to be the rapist and shunned, plus can have adverse affects throughout your career even if it is cleared. To the rape victim, people whisper about you like you're damaged goods, act differently around you, or assume that you are like the example you are giving......either "should have avoided it" (like "Why didn't you take a different road home to avoid that car accident?") or was simply a whore with morning remorse.

It is a HORRIBLE thing....yet so many just laugh it off.
v/r,
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Sgt Adam Jennings
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I never said its a joke nor did I ever say that they always ask for it. I merely pointed out how the system is automatically inclined to believe the female side, especially without any kind of hard evidence on the male's part.

Perhaps if people would be abstinent until they are married a lot of this problem would be solved, but then again, that's a whole other can of worms. A lot of people get married just for the benefits or because of puppy love.
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Pepper Conchobhar
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Oh admit it. We women have jacked this situation up completely. WE - as a group - don't even know what we want anymore. We've shifted the definition of 'rape' into areas so grey that Benjamin-Moore can't clearly illustrate it.

IMHO, this is ALL about encouraging women to avoid personal responsibility. The fact that you can seriously sit there and say that, if a woman signed a freaking FORM consenting to sex, that she *still* isn't responsible for HER actions, just makes me sick.

As a woman, I find this attitude to be the pinnacle of degrading, sexist misogyny.

We are adults. We're capable of protecting ourselves. We're capable of taking responsibility for OUR actions. And yeah, when we push a situation so far that we do send signals (like signing a freaking card saying, "I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS MAN"), then we should accept responsibility for our own behavior. No. This doesn't give men license to screw a woman who's passed out drunk or to ignore a clear 'no'. Most rational human beings do understand 'the line'.

I am not a freaking infant and I resent being treated like one by insecure women like YOU. If you have a problem communicating with men, setting boundaries, and dealing with the opposite sex in a social setting, then admit that YOU have a problem and stop going anywhere without a chaperone. Don't terrorize half the species with your insecure BS.

The solution is simple. Guys need to stop putting out until women - as a group - decide wtf we want.

Seriously, you've got to admit that the idea is funny. All the attention whores not getting attention. Women hitting on men left and right and the guys coldly saying, "I've got a girlfriend'. Men pushing women away after making out with them for ten minutes and saying, "No means no, buddy."

It would drive women in-sane.
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There's an app for that.
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Now that's funny.
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SGT (Join to see) I knew there was an "app for that" LOL but what I wonder is how would it stand up if put to the test, as SFC (Join to see) said, "A yes can always become a no. Doesn't matter whether it is signed off by both parties 2 minutes ago."
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CPT Russell Pitre
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What ever happened to just having a good all time. It reminds me of the virgin alarm in Space Balls. It was a comedy poking fun at Star Wars.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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It's a joke.....but a sad one because this is almost what it takes to CYA these days....
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I wouldn't doubt it will soon come to past, yes to CYA with all the issues in todays ranks.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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This is gay and unrealistic..... lol
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MSG Brad Sand
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To the roommate in the video, "Yes, get your lawyer...well that could be a bit too many people?"
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Pepper Conchobhar
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Yeah, but there's a SHARP brat on here saying that EVEN THIS wouldn't protect a man against accusations. This has gotten ridiculous.
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