Posted on Dec 6, 2018
Joe Collins
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Currently an MS2 with a 3.2 gpa and a 240 pt score. Not on scholarship or in the guard but looking to join or receive a scholarship. Cadre told me I would be competitive for a scholarship but if I don’t get it then it’s to late to sign up for SMP program (basic training summer date). Also if I do the guard/ complete basic and don’t get a contract then I’m stuck in guard. Should I go for scholarship or risk the guard. Asked cadre and he said I will have no problem contracting in future.
I’m asking this because our top rated MS3 just got declined a contract. If he got declined then why will they contract me junior year after basic
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COL John McClellan
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Hard to answer without knowing more about the school, and the current resources going to scholarships in Cadet Command - but I would tell you to trust your Cadre and meet any/all deadlines they give you for applications, medical exams, etc. etc. Keep your grades up and try to get that PT score to 270+ As a PMS, I had a good deal of latitude on 2yr-3yr on-campus scholarships and what I would have been assessing is: intelligence, character and desire! Live the Army Values and never, never, never quit! Avoid sentences such as "stuck in the Guard..." Good Luck!!
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COL Dana Hampton
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It disappoints me to read your views that being in the National Guard is some sort of a bad thing. I was a 3-year scholarship cadet. Earned an Active Duty commission and after 4-years of Active Duty switched to the Reserves and and the to the Guard. After 33 years of successful service leading at the platoon, battery and battalion levels, I retired with nearly half that time serving on Active Duty and 3 overseas deployments. The Guard is an operational force and is used as such. The sooner you realize we are a Total Force to defend this Nation, the better we all will be as an Army.

Service in any component is honorable if served well and faithfully. Take care of your Soldiers and your mission, the rest will take care of itself.
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CPT Zachary Brooks
CPT Zachary Brooks
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Sir, the Guard was considered a joke and looked down upon by some of my peers in ROTC. I myself made my career in the Guard, so I feel down that that was the view they had.
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COL Dana Hampton
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We over come these stereotypes by our performance. Some of my best OERs came from rating by Active Duty senior Officers I worked for when mobilized. They saw that Guard officers are every bit as capable and knowledgeable as AD peers.

As Guard / Reserve Officers we are part of the Total Force Army. The more our Active Component peers work with us, the more these stereotypes will fade.

Keep the faith and always do your best for Soldiers and the mission.CPT Zachary Brooks
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CPT Zachary Brooks
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COL Dana Hampton - Sir, this was my experience while deployed under an active LTC in Kuwait. He initially felt poorly of Guard soldiers, but began to feel much better about us by seeing my work ethic and performance while assigned to his unit.
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COL Jon Thompson
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If you were in my office asking about this, there are 2 questions I would ask you . First, what is your goal after graduation (active duty, Reserve, or Guard). Second, what concerns do you have in paying for college. My default recommendation is for you to compete for a 2-year scholarship. This scholarship option keeps all of your options open for commissioning. If you enlist and become an SMP cadet, your scholarship options limit you to reserve forces duty. If that is your commissioning goal, that would work. Also in many cases, combining state provided NG benefits with an ROTC scholarship becomes the biggest amount of financial benefits you can receive. If you enlist in the NG, there are only a few MOSs that allow you to complete basic and AIT in the same summer. Most others would require you to miss a semester. So you have to look at that as well. I would not worry about what the top-rated MS3 cadet encountered. There are numerous reasons why someone could be refused a contract, many of these you would not have any visibility on to protect privacy rights. Base your decision solely on what you want to do. Again, my recommendation is to go for the scholarship.
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