Posted on Sep 4, 2014
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At what rank should soldiers be exempt from organized pt
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SN Joel Penhallegon
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You are exempt from organized pt when no longer serving.
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Organized PT should be reserved for the young warfighters. You really want old, fat senior NCOs plodding along information for allnthe world to see? That list includes old, fat WOs and Officers. As long as they pass the ht/wt and PT test required for their age group, leave then out!
MSG Chuck Pewsey
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At one time, nobody over 40 had to take the PT test (pushups, sit ups, two mile run). That was in 1982 - I was 39 and looking forward to not doing them, got my best ever two miles and pretty well on the others. In 1983 they changed the reg - everybody did the test, though the over-40 test was pretty lenient to keep very senior personnel from keeling over. That went away the next year, and of course I had turned 40 just in time.
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LTC Michael Garrison
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If a soldier has to pass a PT test it's up to that individual to stay in shape to qualify whether he is in formation or not. Leading a PT formation is normally a Captain or Senior NCO function. Senior Officers/NCO's could form in the rear and participate as I did for many years.
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1SG James Kelly
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Officers don't count.
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SGT(P) Team Leader
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i have to say, covid-19 is the best thing to happen to soldiers who prefer to do individual pt. when we are in hpcom b+, c, and c+.
organized pt is so much of a waist of time, when it comes to getting good results and progress.

now i do see why there is organized pt, some soldiers wont train and the army has standers.
those are the ones that need it.
but honestly anyone that needs organized pt to do pt, past AIT only dose pt for the army, will fall short when training takes place where pt is passed up.
i personally think if its a lifestyle then doing it solo should be fine.
also those who do it for the army and not as a lifestyle, have a higher chance for medboard as well as
when getting out to become extremely unhealthy.
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SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D
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What does rank have to do with being physically capable to perform not only your duties, but at any time the duties of another which may far exceed your "normal" duties.
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SSG James Stodola
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Uhhh, how about never? You are in a job that requires good health and fitness, if you are trying to get out of those activities that keep you fit, then how do you plan on staying fit? Now that being said, there is the issue of profiles, which limit certain activities, but even with those some fitness activities can be done. There always to modify exercise routines to maintain fitness levels. In my 34 years I have seen many many examples of those who managed to avoid the programs and testing for whatever reasons, and the result of that was more injuries, less productive work efforts, and not to mention the appearance issues, which for me is the biggest issue. We are supposed to be a lean and mean fighting force, (Yes I know that sounds corny), and with personnel not being fit to accomplish their jobs under stressful conditions, what have you got, basically a substandard force. Bottom line, everyone needs to be required to partake in PT regardless of rank..
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MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan
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Performance, not rank, should be the measuring factor. Several centuries ago when I was in college there was a PE thing referred to as the "President's Physical Fitness Test". Performance was in graduated levels from failing to passing to other layers leading to perfect. If military PT were graded in a similar manner then those who perform in the highest percentile should be allowed to condition themselves on their own recognizance, regardless of rank. Rank may have its various privileges but not participating in some regular way in PT is not one of them.
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1SG Visual Information Operations Chief
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There should be no rank exemption from organized PT , All soldiers in the command no matter what rank from the Commander (to include stars) on down, the only exemption would be mission, mission takes precedence.
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