Posted on May 10, 2015
MSG Brian Breaker
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How do you feel about Battle Assembly on a Holiday. In my experience I find scheduling Battle Assembly on a Holiday bad planning. I understand that some Holidays are unavoidable due to time and resources. What are your thoughts? Have you been to Battle Assembly on a national holiday? Was it avoidable?
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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I had a leader who wanted to work late until 2100 Monday through Friday and eventually he was asking us to come in on Saturday and Sunday. This man was an absolute fool, and I declined to work on the weekends. He asked and I said, no. There are certain types of Soldiers who work on the weekend such as SD, CQ, cooks, and MPs. I don't understand why doing regular M through F work would be okay to a commander. This is way our normal work week is M though F. The holidays are for families and personal time.
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MSG Brian Breaker
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SSG William Martin, I totally understand. I was in a unit that wanted all Soldiers to come in an extra weekend per month. The Reserve Soldiers were put on orders and the AGR's were required to be there also. It was a huge waste of time and money.
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MSG Operations Nco
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MSG Breaker I think I was in that unit. Those extra weekends was just a cash cow for the senior leaders of that unit. I worked a few of them. Remember the late night BS briefs we had to attend as well. So glad I am in a normal run unit here on the main land.
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MSG B,
As stated previously, the units mission dictates. If it can be prevented by training schedule planning by the Training NCO, then sure request a unit RST. The goal is to get the job done and at the same time keeping soldiers from unnecessary moral declination. Retention is a must.
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MAJ Anthony DeStefano
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When I was a communications technician, they taught us that at least 75% of your later maintenance issues would be due to a bad initial installation...the same can be said of command climate, missing drills/BA's...Set the example, set the tone and minimize deviation from the norms.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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I would think Holidaze would be a no-go for budgetary reasons. Overtime for the DA civilians that support esp if you have to go to post, go to firing ranges and draw tanks and arty and stuff and use them. Never paid attention to see if things such as range control are 24/7/365 operations. Maybe not so much OT, if that the case. Most contracts have holidaze pay at 2 1/2 regular pay that I familiar with.
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SSG Horizontal Construction Engineer
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I literally have BA. SCHEDULED FOR EASTER SUNDAY 2021... ABSOLUTELY LIVID
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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Captain(vts); I joined the AF Reserve when 17 and was always under the impression
“War doesn’t take a holiday!” ... Our base had open houses a lot to boost recruiting... everybody was pushed into “recruiting mode”... and us Airmen were given a mini class on Recruiting points..
for some reason Our Base Food Service was left out of being notified(a clerical error I was assured). I still found out about it.. and went and took some good notes..
We had some good but older equipment in our Food Service facility. I made sure it was really spiffy.. as did my supervisors..
We had a really good crew .. even the few slackers we had(almost very Facility has one or more). Were on top of things...
we did many things the old fashioned way
(Elbow exercize, manual labor) . I (we) recruited 4 new Prospectives to join the Reserves .. they were students at a community college.. one of our Senior NCOs laid out for them how the Reserve and their Civilian job can work together to
Make it copesetic to do both. .. They all had a couple semesters under their belts already ... and jobs in the Restaurant industry.. it was not really an easy sell for 2 of them at first.. but all four wanted to be part of us. Our Senior Sergeant got them in contact with official recruiters to complete their paperwork ... Them 4 joined.. took a bypass skill test in basic training.. so they came in with an official AF 3 skill level in Food services.. Their
5 skill level books were put on order as soon The AF notified the unit they completed BMT. Quite a few units gained prospectives that became Airmen..
I believe our unit gained 100 new Airmen through our all-out effort in Recruiting..
that ideal I impressed on our prospectives.. s’body said that wasn’t a good idea.. A Reserve Recruiter agreed..
We got to tell them the truth.. As long as we do that.. we’ll “be in the right”...
I went “ active duty” because of an opportune sit-rep at a year’s point. I had all the endorsements needed backing my doing that. I was an A1C, had my 5 skill level, had been a 1st Cook, during some of the drills due to a weather sit-rep during one of them and a unforeseen sit-rep in another.. i always kept in my head that
“War doesn’t take a holiday!” .. so I didn’t expect to be off on one.. if it happened, so be it! ... I had made a colorful note with a Airman working (with a calendar paper showing it was Christmas Day on the bulletin board behind his back) “War doesn’t take a holiday!” Somebody took it the wrong way and said my sign wasn’t p.c. because it ‘rubbed salt in the wound’.
I was there when I seen them take it off the board.. “ Gee, it looks like somebody can’t handle the truth, eh Mrs _________?”
(She was a Civilian WG -7 ). In her somewhat snobby nasally voice; “ there is no AF form number on this, therefore it’s unauthorized ! are you responsible for this?” I owned up proud-like; “Yes I am, (I didn’t push any further... besides I had the master to it.. a little creative graphic lettering..and it would turn into a Base Food Service form. I had Comrades at Base graphics that did forms copies.. They followed through for me). A couple weeks later it was back on the board.. with a Base Dining Facility form no; xxxxx0001.. I don’t know if it is still
On the board or not.. It’d be nice if it was..
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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War does not take a holiday ...
“There’s your sign!” As Jeff Foxworthy
the Comedic entertainer would say after describing a comic sit-rep..

So why should a drill? I know it would not be fun to go on drill while your family is engage in going to the beach (picnic)
While you’re at drill.. I know that on certain holidays various sections stand down or have skeleton crews working..
I know that the section I was assigned to
(Base Food Service). Was going full force and then some over the holiday.. Our base had an Open house atmosphere that day and our DF was no exception.. we had a lot of cold trays out along with hot easy fun food; burgers, Hot dogs, ect.,.
And we welcomed Airmen(all of them; Officer too!).. So There need be no down day for Reserve/Guard Units.. regardless of service ...
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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There is "smart" and then there is "Army smart".
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