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I understand the US Army in the last few years reawarded a contract to Beretta to supply our service pistol which as you all know is the M9. Personally I like the Glock 19 a lot better. It costs less, more accurate, same capacity, easy to clean, and doesn't jam nearly as often. In your opinion, which should be used as our standard sidearm? Glock or Beretta? I pick Glock, I'd choose Colt 1911 .45 but that would never happen.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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You’ll never see a striker fired pistol adopted by the military for safety reasons. The Beretta has that long double action trigger and external safety. While the 1911 was single action it had the external safety and grip safety.

Personally I’m not a fan of Glock due to how they feel in my hand. I had a Glock G29 10mm and I gave it to my son. For a similar handgun I like the M&P series. They have much better ergonomics.

I own a Beretta 92FS and I like it, but the grip is a little on the large side.
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Capt Richard I P.
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SFC (Join to see) I sincerely hope you're mistaken about the bias against striker fire for "safety" (truly training) issues, I'm worried you may be right in the US military. Many other militaries have adopted striker fire. Guns should be designed to fire under all circumstances (improper grip, slippery hands, one handed, immediately upon draw-stroke), NOT firing a gun should rely on discipline, not mechanics.
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LTC Paul Heinlein
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I'm a huge fan of the Beretta M9 / 92FS. It is a great design. Of all my personally owned Handguns I have made by major manufacturers, it is the only one that I have never had a failure to fire/ eject/ load/etc. I have had few with Glocks, which shocked me when it happened.

I feel all the bad press from military reference the M9 comes from how badly they are maintained at the unit level (too include the magazine). I have had numerous failures with Military issued M9s (and M4s for that matter).

All that being said, in the end, for me, it all comes down to what you will carry everyday. For me Glocks are the all around go to gun for size, weight, simplicity, accuracy, durability, availability of holsters etc.

9mm versus 40 cal does not matter for me. I'm fine with either. I like the higher capacity of the 9mm, but I also like the harder hitting 40 cal round....based on the benefits and constraints of each, I consider them equal.

So in the end, I carry a Glock in 40 S&W 99% of the time.
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Capt Richard I P.
Capt Richard I P.
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LTC Paul Heinlein Sir, always good points. Now I'm with you on just about everything. I definitely call the lever on the glock the de-cock, since that's what it really is. DA/SA is always a challenge, honestly Im much more accurate with a DA/SA sig after the first round than I ever am with a glock striker fire.

Finally: I hear you about the on post method. Isn't it outrageous? hopefully we can get more RP people to our discussion to address it.
http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces
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LTC Paul Heinlein
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Capt Richard I P.,

Taking this comment into context, I to am more accurate with my SIGs (in SA) then my Glocks. But, the difference in accuracy is not significant enough for me to choose it over the other benefits to the Glocks. I want to be able to not like them, but for me, they are the best around choice for on duty and off duty carry.
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Capt Richard Porter,
What lever on a Glock are you referring to? The trigger safety? That's not a decocker.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Glocks don't have a decocker. Walther P99's do though....
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CPO William E. Mahoney
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I don't like either I'm a 1911 .45 guy it has the one shot stopping power.
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SMSgt Raymond Hindle
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I'm with CPO Mahoney, 1911 was designed right. The forces need to teach Marksmanship, not Spray and Pray! .45ACP does the job the first time. Every one involved learned that in the Philippines the first time!
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