Posted on Feb 24, 2019
Can a civilian employee leave a federal government job if they are selected for OCS through the PLC program?
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I have a friend at my college who is currently in the process of trying to become a Marine Officer through the PLC program. He is in his last year at the university but currently, his run time is disqualifying him from boards. He just suffered an injury to his leg(due to overtraining to try and fix said issue) which means he will be missing the final board. He still wants to pursue becoming an officer but he's still applying for work in the meantime. The question is if he gets a job with the Border Patrol or a similar organization will he be able to leave it if he is selected for OCS? I've been trying to help him find information on this but the search results all talk about going the other way.
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All civilian employers must excuse an absence for military training. Government contractors hiring civilians are no exception. Service Members are protected as long as you disclose the information to your employer in a timely manner.
Also, if the Marines won't take him, have him try the Army.
Also, if the Marines won't take him, have him try the Army.
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I advise you to consult the department itself and read its rules, so that there is a greater understanding of whether it is possible to complete education and move to another department. In any case, after training he will be able to get a job, of course it is better to make it better and the one he wants, namely getting a position in OCS By the way, I heard a lot of useful feedback about this organization and how they care about their employees. Training inside will continue, because I read that the organization uses modern methods, including 5 tips for coaching your employees to improve performance. It is very important to maintain the co-ossification of workers and maintain it at a constant level. I also read these methods in the article https://smallbusinesscoach.org/5-tips-for-coaching-your-employees-to-improve-performance/. So if you are interested you can explore this in more detail. And I will wish you and your friend that the problem is solved and he successfully completed his studies and got the desired job immediately.
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YES, you can leave a gov job anytime. In fact, he can move Gov to MIL and do 20 years, and then back to civ service and get retirement for all total years....I have 36 years. Life is good.
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SGM Jeff Mccloud
If he was hired for a fed job, and leaves for active service, I believe that after five years he would be returning to fed employment as a new hire.
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SSgt GG-15 RET Jim Lint
SGM Jeff Mccloud - That is a a question he should ask HIS CPO and get the reference.
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Most Government Agencies are military friendly (as many former Servicemembers work in these agencies as well). I would say the Border Patrol would fit into this category. So as long as the Servicemember gives his supervisor the proper notification in enough time, & follows up with Approved Orders, they have to let them go on the training.
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Yes, you can leave a civil service position anytime you choose.
Your friend needs to understand that becoming a CBP agent requires training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Glynco, Georgia, which is 89-days.
There are other requirements you can look up.
My point is, once selected, he will be in training for 3 months. Again, he may choose to quit during that time period, or after. Another question to ask is whether it it ethical to accept a position that makes this training investment, knowing that you intend on leaving withing a year. Your friend will have to figure that one out for himself.
In sum, there is legal or regulatory prohibition from resigning, or taking a leave of absence in case OCS doesn't pan out and need to return to civil service. Well, unless Marine OCS failure means fulfilling any service commitment as enlisted.
Your friend needs to understand that becoming a CBP agent requires training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Glynco, Georgia, which is 89-days.
There are other requirements you can look up.
My point is, once selected, he will be in training for 3 months. Again, he may choose to quit during that time period, or after. Another question to ask is whether it it ethical to accept a position that makes this training investment, knowing that you intend on leaving withing a year. Your friend will have to figure that one out for himself.
In sum, there is legal or regulatory prohibition from resigning, or taking a leave of absence in case OCS doesn't pan out and need to return to civil service. Well, unless Marine OCS failure means fulfilling any service commitment as enlisted.
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The answer is yes. Federal employers CAN NOT prevent you from attending any type of military training. You can either request LWOP (Leave Without Pay), or Milirary Furlogh. By law they will have to hold yoyr position until you return from duty. If you are in the NG or Reserve. You are entitled to 15 days PAID leave. Having said all that, keep in mind that during the interview they may ask you about any planned vacations in the near future, military commitments, etc. If it does, and you tell them about OCS, which you should, there is a chance they could sect someone else from the best qualified (BQ) list. Sad thing is that they don't have to say why you weren't selected.
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I do fond interesting he's doing PLC, I'd sent in stuff about it for some time on here, there's a program at a school near us, I never knew much about it, I was always curious about the differences between it and NROTC, I'd be most eager to hear any further descriptions, as well as comparisons with USMC OCS, if at all possible, no rush, merely curious, as I'd said....
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The PLC program is essentially a program where you complete OCS in one of two ways while still attaining your education. You either do 2, 6 week courses during the summers of your Sophomore and Junior years and then commission when you graduate or you do the single 10 week course during the summer of your Junior or Senior years and then in the former case commission upon graduation and in the latter immediately after completion. Unlike NROTC you are not paid a stipend nor required to participate in classes or activities during the school year.
Its also coordinated through the OSO offices instead of through the college programs.
Its also coordinated through the OSO offices instead of through the college programs.
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If your friend receives a spot in PLC to become a commissioned officer he can leave any civilian job to pursue that opportunity
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