Posted on Oct 4, 2014
Can a CSM prohibit a SGT from establishing joint domicile?
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Me and my husband (also a SGT) came to South Korea on Command Sponsored orders for our son (me) and Joint Domicile orders (him). While my company has been extremely supportive to accommodate our needs, his unit is telling him that he is going to have to stay in the barracks the next 2 years (at Suwon Air Base) and come visit us during the weekend (we are at Humphreys), and they are telling him they won't give him the closest base to us (Osan). They are not letting him come see us or stay with us during the next 3 weeks either (in processing). I thought the whole purpose of joint domicile was to have dual military live together. I get the in processing part but can they really make him stay in the Bs even tho his unit's post is within 50mi from mine? Why leadership sometimes feels the need to mess with Soldiers just because they feel like it?
Update: Thank you to all that replied. To answer some of the questions, my husband is Army, 14T ADA, and he could be stationed in Osan. We were successful at establishing our joint domicile. Once my husband respectfully told his CSM that he was going to reach IG and legal the CSM had a change of heart and stationed him in Osan. Thank you for all your advice!
Update: Thank you to all that replied. To answer some of the questions, my husband is Army, 14T ADA, and he could be stationed in Osan. We were successful at establishing our joint domicile. Once my husband respectfully told his CSM that he was going to reach IG and legal the CSM had a change of heart and stationed him in Osan. Thank you for all your advice!
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Its a great pity it takes the threat of an IG investigation to change the mind of a CSM who has developed a God complex-----another reason why I turned down CSM slot and remained a 1st Sergeant----I didn't have much use for the people who gravitated to staff positions.
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Special circumstances are required but its not up to the CSM. Any CSM is the enlistedman's advocate. Is either spiuse in the 2nd Inf Divison? Different regulations apply to soldiers posted in potential hostile fire zones even if its not a 'hot war'.
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Outstanding Sgt Kriss Lee, I'm a little late but that was going to be my advice too.
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Glad it worked out. Good money says the PSNCO didn't bother to inform the CSM of all of the details regarding your joint domicile. I would like to believe that he thought you two were sent to Korea together and that 8th Army would figure out the rest and didn't realize that your joint domicile orders were squared away at DA level. Hopefully he didn't generate any bad blood with the CSM. That unit has two batteries in Kunson. I would hate for him to get sent there.
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Sounds like your husband is in a Patriot unit. I am not sure if they have barracks for the batteries on Osan. I was in the unit that took Patriot to the peninsula over 20 years ago. We had crew rooms for the crews on duty that day. The batteries that cover Osan and Suwon lived on Suwon AB. It was more cost effective to keep the life support foot print small on Osan (20 or so troops versus close to 90). That is probably why the BN CSM is saying that your husband will have to stay at Suwon and visit on the weekend. The big question is what is the pass policy in area three? If it is liberal with overnight passes in effect for everyone then your husband can just take the train or drive back and forth. Suwon and Osan aren't that far apart. The big obstacle is traffic. I'd find out if the units protecting Osan have barracks space for hot crews or if entire batteries are living on Osan. I believe it is former versus the latter. It makes command and control a bit easier. It could be worse. The BN CSM could have S-1 send your husband to Kunson AB.
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There was always a Credo when asked a Question by a Senior NCO or Officer...I do not know the Answer but I will study the matter and get back to you...MilitantCrip
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SGT(P) Kriss Lee,
Woot, woot.
I totally agree with 1SG Larry Cole, EMBA/MBA/MS, how things have worked out.
Happy dancing all around.
As an old Msl Maggot, remind that "Duck Hunter", that the mighty, mighty Oogal Finch, Mr. Riot, Pat is always looking out for it's fan club.
HtH
Tim
Woot, woot.
I totally agree with 1SG Larry Cole, EMBA/MBA/MS, how things have worked out.
Happy dancing all around.
As an old Msl Maggot, remind that "Duck Hunter", that the mighty, mighty Oogal Finch, Mr. Riot, Pat is always looking out for it's fan club.
HtH
Tim
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Glad to hear that things have worked out for you and your family. Rules and regulations are there for a reason not for someone to interrupt how they feel about a situation. Enjoy Korea.
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