Posted on Mar 20, 2019
Can a Drill sergeant search you and only you without permission?
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I’m here at AIT and I have this drill sergeant that absolutely hates everything me and another person in our platoon does the first 2 weeks we did get off on the wrong hand but I just wasn’t use to the freedom coming fresh out of basic I told her that and I’ve been staying under the radar for a while but she just looks for any and everything to chow us out about or give us a counseling so today we had a random room expectation and our rooms got trashed me and the guy she hates also so what she did was thrower everything out our drawers and brought the females to our room and told them that this is how we live and we’re dirty so she took our phones and a couple more guys I gave her a phone but she said I had more than one phone so she made me open my locker and searched through my bags in my locked locker with no permission and found a old phone I was wrong for not turning it in but everyone is telling me to go talk to my 1Sgt because it wasn’t right how I was the only one that got searched and she was never given permission to search any of my personal belongings she just decided to and made me open my locker should I talk to my first sergeant about this? Or is this just something I should just deal with 8 more weeks because I think she is trying to get me put out and I can’t take it
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By now, you're probably out of AIT, so this is more for those who come behind.
Her job is to make a Soldier out of you. Focus more on that than on what you think your rights are. The military is a strange place, and while you absolutely still do have rights, they may not look like what you expect them to. But you HAD to know that when you signed on the line.
Bottom line - as a new Soldier, you have bigger concerns than being aggrieved. Turn yourself into that 5.0 Soldier and when she figures out that you've turned yourself around, she'll move on to her next project.
Her job is to make a Soldier out of you. Focus more on that than on what you think your rights are. The military is a strange place, and while you absolutely still do have rights, they may not look like what you expect them to. But you HAD to know that when you signed on the line.
Bottom line - as a new Soldier, you have bigger concerns than being aggrieved. Turn yourself into that 5.0 Soldier and when she figures out that you've turned yourself around, she'll move on to her next project.
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Better yet, why don't you go to that DI and ask them what you could do to become a squared away soldier that he/she would be proud to have in theit command. Ask "what can I do to gain your respect?". You sem to be awfully confused about the Army and Regulations. I know if you lied to me your ass would be in a sling!
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In the first place, YOU were in the wrong...In the second place, under law and Army regulations you as a recruit have rights but under those same laws and regulations the Drill instructor determines when you can use your cellphone and when you can't. It's a privilege you must earn. Under those regulations the Drill Instructor has the right to search your gear and person if the believes you are in violation of the rules and regulations in place during Recruit training.
So rather than whining about this remember several things. YOU volunteered to serve. YOU took the Oath that said "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
No one held a gun to your head to take that oath. No one forced you into service. So the best advice that I can give you is obey and do what your told to the last detail, quit whining and learn how to be the best Soldier you can be and do your job that you swore and oath to God to do. And right now your job is to learn to be a Soldier. Because it's going to get tougher as you go along. This isn't a civilian job where you can do whatever you want. You're in the service of your country and the taxpayer is paying for your training, your food, your clothes, your equipment and expects you to defend our Nation. We don't expect you to fail in that sacred responsibility. And right now that's what you're doing when you don't tow the line. Do you job.
So rather than whining about this remember several things. YOU volunteered to serve. YOU took the Oath that said "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
No one held a gun to your head to take that oath. No one forced you into service. So the best advice that I can give you is obey and do what your told to the last detail, quit whining and learn how to be the best Soldier you can be and do your job that you swore and oath to God to do. And right now your job is to learn to be a Soldier. Because it's going to get tougher as you go along. This isn't a civilian job where you can do whatever you want. You're in the service of your country and the taxpayer is paying for your training, your food, your clothes, your equipment and expects you to defend our Nation. We don't expect you to fail in that sacred responsibility. And right now that's what you're doing when you don't tow the line. Do you job.
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As a additon to what i said..there are army values in the acronym LDRSHIP.. i think you failed some of those values. Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, Personal Courage...you meed to work on the integrity and honor pieces.
Bear true faith and allegiance to the US Constitution, the Army, your unit, and other soldiers. Be loyal to the nation and its heritage.
Bear true faith and allegiance to the US Constitution, the Army, your unit, and other soldiers. Be loyal to the nation and its heritage.
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Your writing is atrocious. That made my head hurt. Please consider multilevel writing courses, or I am afraid your potential will only manifest as a box of fries and a greasy burger.
Well first off....your not at summer camp..you are a solider in the US Army...and what you have to learn right off the bat..is the Maximum Range of an excuse in 0 Meters. Second of all, DS are the same all over the army, bow and the old days, two things DS are doing, to see what your made of and singles out to see how you handle it. I had a 1SG who said you learn by doing...and your doing it wrong. The cellphone thing you mentioned is just just excuse my French, but fucking stupid. You could take it as not following an lawful..whwn she askes you to surrender your phones. Like the other senior NCOs mentioned. The army isnt for everybody..last i heard was only 5% of the US population can make it in the army. I f you are ha ing this much trouble with DS, go to a different DS. Or the Chaplain. The Chaplain are always good for this kind of thi g and they report to the CO. But you must remember. shot rolls down hill. And your at the bottom. If you really cant stick it out for 8 weeks ..i believe it is still CH. 15 para. 6 is hardship discahrge for inability to conform to army standards. You are in AIT...basic training was the hard stuff..8 weeks then permanent duty station will be easier
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YES! UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR ASS KICKED!!! SUCK IT UP! BUTTER CUP!!! AND THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT YOUR FIRST SARGENT WOULD SAY!!!
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I see that you posted this 4 months ago. How did everything work out? (You got great advice here!)
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