Posted on Apr 18, 2019
Can a platoon sgt tell a female soldier that she is required to wear a bra when in civilians?
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I am a female in the army current on rotation over seas. I was just told by my team leader that my platoon Sgt (female) told him that I need to start wearing a bra while off duty. in the clothes that I wear, you can't see my nipple or even the color of my nipple nor do I wear revealing or low cut shirts. At the most, you can just see that I am simply not wearing one. Nowhere in any reg does it say it’s required not even in uniform. Can she tell me to do so?
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DA Pam 670-1
Women in the Military
Posted 5 y ago
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I wish I had nothing better to do when I was still a platoon sergeant or first sergeant than going around telling my troops to wear a bra in civilian clothes. Your PSG needs to get a life.
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You raise a good point. It would be up to your Unit Commander, see AR 670-1 chapter 3-9 C(page 15).
DA Pam 670-1 states females will wear bras and underwear at all time while in uniform, see DA Pam 670-1 Chapter 18-30 paragraph a-3(page 133).
Consider respectfully asking the reason why, it may bring something you were unaware of to light.
DA Pam 670-1 states females will wear bras and underwear at all time while in uniform, see DA Pam 670-1 Chapter 18-30 paragraph a-3(page 133).
Consider respectfully asking the reason why, it may bring something you were unaware of to light.
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What the hell is going on with you bunch of soldiers? Do you All think you’re entitled? Here’s a grand idea,”Why not shut the f**k and do what you’re told.” You’re in the military little girl, not at home in some little bitty titty dance club. You’re over-seas. Did it occur to you that possibly YOU are unethical? A lot of country’s don’t tolerate that behavior from their own women. Let alone a visitor. Obviously, your mini headlights were on bright cause someone noticed or they wouldn’t have said anything. Get with the program. Shut up and grow up.
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PO1 Tom Follis
I’m all tore up over this. We have one political party that expects the rest of the world to be PC and soft. They’d like to shut us up and silence our 1st right amendments. FB is no different. If they don’t wanna hear your opinion or if your opinion is different from theirs, they just shut you up by blocking you. Again, 1st amendment rights. Now, it would appear that the Army as well as RP has taken the same path. PC, soft and don’t want to hear your opinion because it is not in line with their beliefs. I don’t think John Wayne or Clint Eastwood is very proud of you boys right now. Is this how you treat your subordinates there JP? I don’t want to hear you so calm down and talk. I don’t want to hear you. Is that it? You just take away points cause you don’t like what I say. LISTEN UP. it’s your program, your game. You don’t want me comin to your show that’s fine. I sure don’t wanna be around you either. However, don’t try to intimidate me because you’re a “senior admin” and you feel the necessity to throw your weight around. Really, I’m not heart broken. I just made that up.
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MSG Barbara Hensley Lawson
I am a retired female MSG and I totally agree with your comment and then some. I say (in my mind) exactly the same thing at least 10 times a day, especially in regards to the "me" generation. I no longer verbalize my opinions as my chances of getting shot are now much higher ... lol!
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If another female has noticed that you are not wearing a bra then you are showing something. They can require that you wear decent clothing and that is subject to interpretation.
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That is awkward. She can say whatever she wants. Are you required to comply? I guess that would depend on if that is coming in the form of an order or a friendly suggestion. Without getting into the argument about fairness between men being able to go topless in public and women are not, why would you not want to present yourself in the best light even when on your off time. I am old school, so I do believe you are going to draw unwanted attention and it could become a safety reason for her order/suggestion. Based on some of the responses here it sounds like there are definitely some regulations to back up that Sgts action.
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Depends on where you are overseas. In Germany back in the day, they just told all of us not to get nude on the nude beaches. Many still did. Our females went without bras & even topless when being like the locals. Even stateside, there was no reason for anybody to ever bet so nit-picky. We had one female MP who went to the NCO club that was wearing a black thong, black lace cat suit, & high heels who almost got an Article 15. The accuser was another female & it turned out that our MP was getting too much attention & she was jealous. Our females should be able to express themselves while off duty. The males in their unit better have their back in case somebody tries anything she doesn't want.
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The young female soldier should know the rules and regulations of not then she should be required to read up those particular regulations about the proper attire, regardless if she's wearing civilian attire, she's officially on duty and therefore should dress appropriately, no excuses, otherwise she could face severe consequences, the same applies to make soldiers who tend to walk around with droopy drawers or not wearing the proper attire, there's no reason for being unprofessional
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You need to look up the regulations on civilian dress code follow what your team leader says till you find the dress code regulation
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