Posted on Apr 18, 2019
Can a platoon sgt tell a female soldier that she is required to wear a bra when in civilians?
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I am a female in the army current on rotation over seas. I was just told by my team leader that my platoon Sgt (female) told him that I need to start wearing a bra while off duty. in the clothes that I wear, you can't see my nipple or even the color of my nipple nor do I wear revealing or low cut shirts. At the most, you can just see that I am simply not wearing one. Nowhere in any reg does it say it’s required not even in uniform. Can she tell me to do so?
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Glad I never had to deal with this BS. There were enough pertinent issues.
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Really. This is one of the reason why our brothers and sisters get out on the first place. People got too much time in their hands and nit pick just about everything. Pretty soon you'll be told what color of underwear you should be wearing.
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You all are nuts. Honestly that's a SHARP complaint waiting to happen.
No one is gonna tell me what kind of damn underwear I'm wearing. Ever. I don't give a fuck. I'm not very well endowed so I can get by without a bra.
But there is nothing that says females have to wear a bra. I don't care what any of you males say. I guarantee if she pushed back on this, they'd drop it.
No one says anything if males go commando. I'm sure some do.
This weird Western obsession with sexualizing female breasts is ridiculous. Sometimes we need to "free ball" it too but in our way.
If she had to she could go get a medical professional to give her a profile that says she can't wear a bra. I would just be an asshole too.
No one is gonna tell me what kind of damn underwear I'm wearing. Ever. I don't give a fuck. I'm not very well endowed so I can get by without a bra.
But there is nothing that says females have to wear a bra. I don't care what any of you males say. I guarantee if she pushed back on this, they'd drop it.
No one says anything if males go commando. I'm sure some do.
This weird Western obsession with sexualizing female breasts is ridiculous. Sometimes we need to "free ball" it too but in our way.
If she had to she could go get a medical professional to give her a profile that says she can't wear a bra. I would just be an asshole too.
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You are a soldier 24 hours a day and are required to conform to the regulations set forth. You are to present yourself both on and off duty in a professional manner. Whether or not your Platoon Sergeant is a female or male has nothing to do with it. You took an oath to to obey the orders of officers (non-commissioned officers and officers alike) appointed over you. Suck it up pancake and do the right thing. Ask yourself how you would handle this situation if you were in a position of authority.
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Your sargent can tell you to adjust your on or off duty clothing if they were told by a higher rank and don't have to say were it came from and when you are out of us there is a by interpretation about on and off duty dress depending were you are at. The military has been trying to have female dress so that they are safer and less chance for them to be assaulted by no showing of skin to the breasts of any kind sins 2008 about it has to dew with safty of military members.
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Yes she can your in the military which you signed up for. Your took an oath to obey those appointed over you. In other words it doesn’t matter what you think. You belong to the U S military suck it up buttercup
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There's no regulations in the military that I know of that covers a female soldier while on civilian clothes should, will or shall wear a freaking bra. Its like saying, I should wear my underwear while wearing pants. Sounds like the platoon sergeant needs a bra wrapped around her freaking grape.
However, if we assess the situation and use good sense, it would be inappropriate if a female private parts are showing (see through) and definitely poor judgement in her part.
It is kind of subjective, but the bottom line is we as service members need to realize what we should be doing that's appropriate not only for yourself , but also the image of the entire service you are a member of.
Back to planet earth, "Why would I care if Private Smuckatelly wears a bra or not. Stick with the meat and potatoes and follow through with the mission. I don't think someones bra will make a difference along the lines of accomplishing the mission. The platoon sergeant got too much time on her hands.
However, if we assess the situation and use good sense, it would be inappropriate if a female private parts are showing (see through) and definitely poor judgement in her part.
It is kind of subjective, but the bottom line is we as service members need to realize what we should be doing that's appropriate not only for yourself , but also the image of the entire service you are a member of.
Back to planet earth, "Why would I care if Private Smuckatelly wears a bra or not. Stick with the meat and potatoes and follow through with the mission. I don't think someones bra will make a difference along the lines of accomplishing the mission. The platoon sergeant got too much time on her hands.
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No. Just no. That platoon Sergeant was wrong. Just plain wrong. The only time there is or should be an issue is when you are on duty and in civilian clothes.
Ask to see a regulation. In fact, as the Sergeant did not do it herself and had another NCO do it, a male at that, I would utilize my CoC open door policy.
Ask to see a regulation. In fact, as the Sergeant did not do it herself and had another NCO do it, a male at that, I would utilize my CoC open door policy.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Brian G. - You apparently did not read the SM's full comment or her other comments on the subject. I can tell that from your pontificating, otherwise you would have remarked that the SM was incorrect in her statement that nowhere in the regulations did it require her to wear said undergarment. With that being said, another item that you and a number of others have failed to acknowledge or address is the 'local' civilian clothing wear policy. I can almost guarantee that if someone is posted overseas or in a 'hazardous duty' area that there is one. Which in this case we do not know if it applies but it seems as though this SM is overseas and it may have that stricture.
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SSG Robert Webster
1SG (Join to see) - There was that suggestion in this discussion about contacting their congressperson.
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SGT Russell Chewning
1SG (Join to see) - There's literally no reasonable reason to apply this regulation unless the female in question is in the middle east, and not wearing a bra OFF POST. Middle east, or other countries that totally and completely fail to respect women's rights. This regulation is 100% about seeing a woman's body as a sexual object.
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