Posted on Apr 18, 2019
Can a platoon sgt tell a female soldier that she is required to wear a bra when in civilians?
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I am a female in the army current on rotation over seas. I was just told by my team leader that my platoon Sgt (female) told him that I need to start wearing a bra while off duty. in the clothes that I wear, you can't see my nipple or even the color of my nipple nor do I wear revealing or low cut shirts. At the most, you can just see that I am simply not wearing one. Nowhere in any reg does it say it’s required not even in uniform. Can she tell me to do so?
Posted 5 y ago
Responses: 404
Is the order illegal, immoral, or unethical? (No)
Is the order conducive to good order and discipline? (Yes)
Is the order discriminatory? (Likely, no)
Is this the hill you want to have your very early career sacrificed on? (Likely, no)
Is there a legitimate, documented medical reason why you don’t wear a bra? (No?)
Then yes—the PSG can issue such an order.
Is the order conducive to good order and discipline? (Yes)
Is the order discriminatory? (Likely, no)
Is this the hill you want to have your very early career sacrificed on? (Likely, no)
Is there a legitimate, documented medical reason why you don’t wear a bra? (No?)
Then yes—the PSG can issue such an order.
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Its' one of those situation where If possible talk to her off duty and find out where she is coming from with this.She could be modeling you for greatness, And she could be knowing how it look as to the other platoon, or been thru what she is suggesting to you.Just a thought to ponder
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I'm sorry, but this is not the Army I was in. If your PSG gives the order and you don't like it. Suck it up and get a time for you to talk to the PSG to discuss the issue. It seems like the the kids of today question everything they don't like. If you can't obey your PSG in a little matter like this, what are you going to do when the bullets start flying and your PSG tells you to do something you don't like? If you can't follow orders the Army needs to retrain the SM.
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If your deployed your technically on duty 24/7. Something to think about before you raise too much of a stink, you can bet your PSG already knows this.
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If it’s going to be you need to wear this or that just remember that the guys all have to stay clean shaven even on weekends. Your plt Sargent is a whimp. She could of told you her self.
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SPC (Join to see) You may not even get a chance to read this how ever there has been some really good advice posted her. MSG Brian Johnston posted excellent answers. One thing I notice that may be of a help to you is the complaint came from your PSG. Then instead of handling it at her level she put it on the SQD LDR/TEAM LDR. it was her complaint she needs to handle it not pass it down to someone else that way you get the information concerning your violation directly from the person that feels it is a problem. She could then take the subject up with the rest of the chain of command later and privately. There are regulations that cover this issue although loosely in some cases. You have AR 670-1/ 600-20, and other as in command policy, and local policy. As an NCO your PLT SGT. Observes and infraction it is her JOB to do an on the spot and than general counseling as a follow up not pass it down to some one else. Like in most of these discussions it is hard for everyone to give you much help because of a large amount of information. This happened 6 months ago so hopefully you have the problem solved would be nice to see how it was resolved so we could learn from it. Thank you for your Service.
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you may want to seek an EO rep to find the answers for you on this.. I always understood that it if isn't physically seen, then you are ok (as in see thru clothing). It is also probably advisable not to push the subject on base. As where you say it can't be seen, but anyone can say they can clearly see it. As for off base, how is it that come into the same circles as your NCO's?
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Are they really kidding Me.... Now they're going a lil' bit toooo far ! Of all the thing's we have to worry about, to wear or not to wear is "NOT" the question ! Don't everybody remember the Bra-Burning of the 70's. You go girl !
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I don’t think a platoon sergeant should dictate whether or not a female Solider wears a bra while in Civilian attire. Especially if said Solider is partaking in her off duty occupation as a dancer at a gentlemen’s club. Just my two cents
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