Posted on Apr 18, 2019
Can a platoon sgt tell a female soldier that she is required to wear a bra when in civilians?
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I am a female in the army current on rotation over seas. I was just told by my team leader that my platoon Sgt (female) told him that I need to start wearing a bra while off duty. in the clothes that I wear, you can't see my nipple or even the color of my nipple nor do I wear revealing or low cut shirts. At the most, you can just see that I am simply not wearing one. Nowhere in any reg does it say it’s required not even in uniform. Can she tell me to do so?
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She may suggest that you wear one. note it does not take much to ruin the disaplin of a unit , She might be looking out for you welfare.
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Actually no. Off duty she can dress to be comfortable. On duty, she better be dressed accordingly
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I don’t know why you want to know you’ll set yourself up for a sexual harassment complaint believe me it’s not worth it
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Other people see things that you don't. While you may think you look presentable it may not be the case to those around you. Another soldier may have complained. Your platoon SGT may have noticed others around you looking at you. Your team leader may have noticed and just said your platoon SGT said it because it would sound better coming from a female and he was afraid of a possible EO complaint for saying the wrong thing. And if your unit is primarily male, as so many are, your fellow soldiers are probably not going to tell you anything either. But, I'm sure she is looking out for your best interest as annoying as it may be to you. If one person can tell you are not wearing a bra then others can too. You say you are on rotation over seas. Well, as much as we want to trust those we are stationed with not everyone can be trusted and how you look matters. Over seas is where a majority of sexual assaults happen in the military. But to answer your question, yes, she can tell you what to wear. She probably wouldn't back home but on rotation is a different matter. At the very least wear a sports bra.
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I would think that common sense would dictate here. If the girls are not staying in formation or there is a high risk of putting someones eye out, then yes. While us men love pokies, it is NOT very lady like. You are a representative of your outfit, your branch and your country AT ALL TIMES. NOT trailer trash Barbie.
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"Uniform of the day " is set locally so although uniform regulations do not state a bra is required it can be stated on the daily roster. In civvies it can't be required. Next time you get an order on off-duty dress state, "I don't understand. Please put the order it writing ". The order must be written with an order number and date/time stamp and issued through the S1 shop. I don't think anyone would put in the trouble to officially issue an unlawful order.
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I'm a 70 year old enlisted Army Infantryman(1969 in Vietnam fighting in combat over 3 different countries) & I see nothing wrong with your assessment on that young lady. I been riding my Harley since 1971 & where I've been since then would have the Army wondering what is sane or not!
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Yes she can. Because she’s a she. Your team leader however was unwise to pass this on, being male.
Not everything is in the regs.
If following orders is an issue you should not re-enlist. Meanwhile as this is far from the worst or most difficult order you may receive as a soldier you should obey it. You could perhaps cause some trouble for your hapless team leader as he’s male but you will get no traction against a female NCO.
Best advice is Roger that and drive on.
Happy Holidays all!
Not everything is in the regs.
If following orders is an issue you should not re-enlist. Meanwhile as this is far from the worst or most difficult order you may receive as a soldier you should obey it. You could perhaps cause some trouble for your hapless team leader as he’s male but you will get no traction against a female NCO.
Best advice is Roger that and drive on.
Happy Holidays all!
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