Posted on Apr 18, 2019
Can a platoon sgt tell a female soldier that she is required to wear a bra when in civilians?
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I am a female in the army current on rotation over seas. I was just told by my team leader that my platoon Sgt (female) told him that I need to start wearing a bra while off duty. in the clothes that I wear, you can't see my nipple or even the color of my nipple nor do I wear revealing or low cut shirts. At the most, you can just see that I am simply not wearing one. Nowhere in any reg does it say it’s required not even in uniform. Can she tell me to do so?
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DA Pam 670-1
Women in the Military
Posted 5 y ago
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I hope I'm not out of line :) 1st. how did anyone even know you were not wearing a bra?
2nd. If you are built large enough, and (sorry) flopping around, then probably would be considered
as not wearing a bra.
3rd. Go to the person who said you need to wear a bra and simply ask why. If they point to an artile
saying you need one, then that's it.
Maybe she is just jealous :)
2nd. If you are built large enough, and (sorry) flopping around, then probably would be considered
as not wearing a bra.
3rd. Go to the person who said you need to wear a bra and simply ask why. If they point to an artile
saying you need one, then that's it.
Maybe she is just jealous :)
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You fallow orders at all times.
Your on duty 247.
Either fallow orders or you don't belong in the military.....
If you want to do as you please request seperation.
Your on duty 247.
Either fallow orders or you don't belong in the military.....
If you want to do as you please request seperation.
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I don't see the problem with a SNCO correcting you. I'm tired of seeing people who willingly sign up for the military knowing they are going to forfeit some of their "rights", complain and then want to stand out as individuals.
You signed the line … you stood on the footprints … you chose to be General Issue. Fall in step with your unit or GTF out.
This PC crap is getting worse by the years.
You signed the line … you stood on the footprints … you chose to be General Issue. Fall in step with your unit or GTF out.
This PC crap is getting worse by the years.
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Cpl Chris Hebenstreit
Personally, if you chose not to correct yourself after being given an order ... I'd have you hit with an Article 134.
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How about you signed on the line, became General Issue, therefore you follow the order of the superior nco. So sick and tired of seeing this "me me me … my rights" bullshit in the military.
By rights, if you decide not to, they should hit you with a Article 134 catch all.
People willingly sign into the military knowing they are going to forfeit some of their "freedoms." Get over it.
By rights, if you decide not to, they should hit you with a Article 134 catch all.
People willingly sign into the military knowing they are going to forfeit some of their "freedoms." Get over it.
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The only thing I could see them playing on the aspect of is it would look unprofessional but even that is a hard sell...
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1) overseas I would say obviously yes
2) the way you talk about what cannot be seen sounds like you are leaving out some pertinent details
3) it also sounds like they may be leaving out some key information as to why they told you that. Those of us who have been to multiple leadership schools should be able to attest that our Doctrine is not to just say follow every order just because I said so and you never get an explanation, it actually specifically tells us to explain stuff to you. We even have a note that says we will never leave you uninformed.
2) the way you talk about what cannot be seen sounds like you are leaving out some pertinent details
3) it also sounds like they may be leaving out some key information as to why they told you that. Those of us who have been to multiple leadership schools should be able to attest that our Doctrine is not to just say follow every order just because I said so and you never get an explanation, it actually specifically tells us to explain stuff to you. We even have a note that says we will never leave you uninformed.
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No she can't make you wear something when your not on duty just as she can't tell me I cant wear a black lacy bra when I am not on duty
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You can tell the differences in answers. I’m winning to bet anyone who says it’s not the place of an NCO to tell a soldier how to dress isn’t from line unit. I am so glad I am now retired. We have regulations for a reason we follow orders (both lawful and direct) for a reason. If you don’t known that reason, chances are you haven’t been deployed or you were fast tracked to a senior rank without have to actually implemented the craft of leadership.
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