Posted on Apr 18, 2019
SPC Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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I am a female in the army current on rotation over seas. I was just told by my team leader that my platoon Sgt (female) told him that I need to start wearing a bra while off duty. in the clothes that I wear, you can't see my nipple or even the color of my nipple nor do I wear revealing or low cut shirts. At the most, you can just see that I am simply not wearing one. Nowhere in any reg does it say it’s required not even in uniform. Can she tell me to do so?
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SSG Clayton Lam
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Ask yourself if this is an issue really worth fighting over. Is it really a situation where you want to make your life and your PSGs life a pain. Speak privately with your PSG and ask him for his reasons behind such an order.
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SSgt Daniel d'Errico
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In uniform, you wear what was issued to you. In civilian clothing you must still present a professional appearance. While TDY to Oklahoma, I met a young female airman, who was selected for an exercise which would simulate deploying. This would include an inspection of everyone's issued kit. She quietly confessed to me, that she had thrown away her issued underwear and never worn underwear. She asked if I could take he shopping off be to procure some. I agreed to do so. She bought underwear but it wasn't the issued color of white. I told her it had to be "white" in color but she bought what she wanted. Needless to say, she w a s written up for the wrong underwear.
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SGM Robert Murray
SGM Robert Murray
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Professional is a subjective term.
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SFC Jeff Stevenson
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I have always gone by the adage "pick your battles". Is this really worth fighting? What you do in your room is your business, as long as it's not illegal. Clothing preference is not a battle I would fight and fall on my sword for. As 1SG Brian Johnston said, it all depends on how higher reads the reg. Failing to comply always makes for a long and tiresome work place. Good Luck.
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SSG Greg Miech
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I think it is up to the individual as to what civilian clothing they are to wear and depended on their budget the image they want to project themselves as. Offending local culture or events in clothing that leaves little to the imagination is not the best way to go.
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LCpl Claude Rawlins
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I served when the Marine Corps told me I couldn't wear jeans on liberty!!! I truly believe that while on duty, in uniform we ALL need to look like professionals!!! Off duty (out of uniform) should be personal decision. Serving with pride in our uniforms and personal appearance at all times should be a goal we all strive for!!!
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As a former PLT SGT I'd have avoided the topic. Unless your attire was in some way an embarrassment to our command, Army or Country. I may mention the safety aspect if dress was revealing (I was also SHARP). This is very subjective and I would simply ask for clarification. This PLT SGT may be rather conservative (How he/she was raised) or there very well could be a local policy that you may be unaware of. I doubt that but who knows. I would also wonder if this is a fight worth fighting? My youngest daughter hates to wear one. It bothers me but I don't have to wear one so who am I to judge? She wears a sports bra when she has to wear one. Lots to ponder in this regard and I would approach it with curiosity rather than complaints.
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SGT Unit Supply Specialist
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Tell her to point to the regulation they says you must wear a bra in civilians. If she cannot, tell her to die mad about it.
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SGT John Melvin
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I for one would like to see bras outlawed.
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LCpl Claude Rawlins
LCpl Claude Rawlins
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Sexist asshole!!!
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SGT John Melvin
SGT John Melvin
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That was just a very poor taste joke. Sorry I offended you.
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SPC Raven Elloie
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Not at all sweetheart. Especially not off duty. Maybe if she stop looking so hard she won’t be so bothered. Most annoying thing about the military... boobs are natural let them hang when you want to it’s your body
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Look, if she is telling you to wear one than just do it.. Its most likely been brought to her attention by others, I'm speaking from experience on this one, unfortunately. For myself and my female soliders. Is it in the regs that you can or cannot, No. That said, you probably hang out with your team and fellow soilders in your plt. On your off time; So they are commenting, saying things, ect. It sucks but the truth of the matter is many are extremely childish. She is trying to prevent bigger problems down the road.
I absolutely hate having to have that conversation with a female, but its always the same- its a distraction.. I know, I know but well there it is.
Plus you are in a host nation so your presentation matters to the civilian population.
So you can fight it if you want to, but you will just make your life more difficult. Unfortunately perception is reality and we get held to a double standard especially when it comes to AR 670.
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