Posted on May 28, 2020
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Our past CSM has reportedly been coming onto post in uniform and issuing directives even tho he retired 6 months ago
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No, of course not. Some people just have a hard time giving it up though. The guys that still work on post after retirement, i.e. DACs, Contractors, etc are usually the worst offenders.

I remember one instance when I was a young Soldier, I had only been in the Army about 2 years at that point. I was with one of those 10-year TIS E-4s and I don't remember why exactly but some retired E-9 tried to get in his butt about something. My friend just blew him off, which really ticked of the retired E-9 even more... he says "well I'm retired Sergeant Major so-and-so"... to which my friend responds "key word is retired" and continues walking again.
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SPC Greg Cunningham
SPC Greg Cunningham
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I could not agree more, the old CSM put his time in and desires to be respected, even if he is in the wrong. In this day and time people seem to be less respectful of others. When you have put your life on hold for our country a little courtesy is due! The Sp/4 could have handled it for more diplomatically! Considering the CSM is a brother (as all Veterans are) that has borne the mantel of service as SP/4 is now bearing! A discrete conversation with the SP/4 would have bee in order!
At least that’s how I see it!
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SGT Dan Gray
SGT Dan Gray
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SPC Greg Cunningham - I could not disagree more. Granted the CSM put in his time but the fact remains he has the word RETIRED in front of his name. And that does not give him the authority to walk around thinking he is all that and a bag of chips, not anymore. As I told the soldier, respectfully tell him he has no authority anymore because of his retirement. And while you would appreciate the ability to sit and chat with him, you have work to do and have to have it done or your active CSM would ream you a new one. If this CSM want his old authority, then tell him to re-up.
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Sgt Bob Wilburn
Sgt Bob Wilburn
1 mo
A veteran deserves respect no matter what rank he achieved and whether he/she retired or just served one enlistment. That same veteran deserves no special privilege.
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SPC Gary Cartwright
SPC Gary Cartwright
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I just hope that Retired CSM didn't work in CIF.
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LTC Kevin B.
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There are two separate issues here, issuing directives and wearing the uniform. Regarding issuing directives, he has no authority to do that. He may have influence, but no specific authority. If leaders are allowing him to influence them, that's not necessarily wrong (although the level of influence might be problematic from a leadership standpoint and require some form of leadership intervention). Regarding the uniform, unless there are other pertinent details that you have left out, according to AR 670-1 he cannot wear the uniform in such a scenario. The regulation states that retired personnel can wear the uniform in "occasions of ceremony" that:

"include, but are not limited to, military balls, military parades, weddings, military funerals, memorial services, meetings, conferences, or similar functions of associations formed for military purposes, of which the membership is composed largely or entirely of current or honorably discharged veterans of the Armed Forces of the United States."

It also states that:

"retired personnel are authorized to wear the uniform only on the following occasions:
(1) While attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony.
(2) Attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any Active or Reserve U.S. military unit is taking part. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the combat uniform and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn. Wearing the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above, is prohibited."

So, it appears as if it's wrong for him to simply show up on post in uniform. If he has been invited for some sort of meeting, conference, etc., it may fall into a gray area where a person in leadership may have to make that decision. That's based on my reading of the regulation.
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SSgt Ashlee Memitt
SSgt Ashlee Memitt
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You almost wonder if there might not be some mental health issues. He def knows the regs at this point. Seems like there might be more going on there. Kind of feel sorry for him. It’s kind of sad.
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SSgt Carroll Straus
SSgt Carroll Straus
4 mo
My then Active Reservist digits and I saw an eedjit in uniform (fake, no less) an an airshow. David, a pilot/Warrant Officer called him out. He vanished . :-)
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SSgt Carroll Straus
SSgt Carroll Straus
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Sigoth, not digitSSgt Carroll Straus
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SSgt Carroll Straus
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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You said reportedly, that means you do not know. Nor do you know how much leave he had built up. With deployments there is a chance he had that and more. I retired not too long ago and with all I have built up I was on the payroll for almost seven months. If he is on leave and wants to make corrections in uniform he can do so. Now, if he is officially retired and you have more than speculation, whomever he corrected to speak with the current CSM. It would be a mighty bold move of home to do this. Unlikely at best.
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SSG Sharon Fields
SSG Sharon Fields
5 mo
He still has no right to come back in and give commands over his replacement does he?
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MSgt Allen Chandler
MSgt Allen Chandler
5 mo
Before anybody makes judgment about this I think there needs to be a lot more data collected in information presented. My first thought is there anyone that is retired or on retirement leave has been revealed of history assignment and that means there’s no chain of command for him to issue orders to. I think anybody going around a military base weather activity duty civilian or retired issuing directives to other people needs to be called on to justify his authority. As I remember even when to base or squadron commander came in there was always an official piece of paper saying they assumed the authority and power of that job.
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SSgt Carroll Straus
SSgt Carroll Straus
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Good point!
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MSgt Allen Chandler - In the Army you don't need a piece of paper saying you have authority. You can correct anyone that needs corrected using customs and courtesies. You are required to show your CAC if you are not in uniform, god knows as a RETIRED 1SG i need to see it to believe it.....black and white buddy.
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