Posted on Sep 14, 2016
Can a soldier be forced to attend an Audie Murphy board?
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I have an NCO who is being forced to compete in an Audie Murphy board 8 days after notification. Is there any justification to get him out of it? The 1SG is relentless, and the CSM is unresponsive pertaining to the situation.
This is a good NCO, who doesn't want to make a fool of himself at a prestigious Corps level board.
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Note: Photo added by RP staff.
This is a good NCO, who doesn't want to make a fool of himself at a prestigious Corps level board.
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Note: Photo added by RP staff.
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Sergeant Audie Murphy Club (SAMC)
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Sergeant Audie Murphy Club (SAMC) Mandatory
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Tell to take it with a grain of salt. If he does well good on him but if not than atleast he tried
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I am sorry you are an nco oyu should honored to be even considered.except for the information about audie murphy there should be no need to prep.if you were selected because you are a warm body what does that say about the rest of the ncos in your unit.If you honestly believe being selected for the board and dont perform well will hurt you down the road your an idiot.
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He will be fine. I am an Audie Murphy club member. He will have additional time to prepare. Stay professional.
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SSG Robert Webster
SAMC
All Active Army, Army Reserve, and Army National Guard NCOs in the ranks of Corporal through Sergeant First Class assigned or attached to TRADOC units are eligible for the SAMC. TRADOC Reg 600-14
SAMA
3-1. Eligibility a. All Active Army, USAR and ARNG Soldiers in the ranks of Corporal through Master Sergeant/First Sergeant, based on FORSCOM installations or attached to FORSCOM units, are eligible for the SAMA. b. ARNG Soldiers who are not in Title 10 status or assigned to a FORSCOM unit may compete for the FORSCOM SAMA while in Title 32 status upon approval of an exception to policy (ETP). The ETP must be submitted to CSM, U.S. Army FORSCOM through the FORSCOM G-1, Sergeant Major (SGM). The ETP must be favorably endorsed by the State ARNG CSM. The ARNG SAMA board packet submitted to the FORSCOM CSM for award approval must contain evidence of compliance with all four phases of the SAMA selection process. c. Service members of other armed services may compete for the FORSCOM SAMA if they are assigned or attached to a FORSCOM unit in a joint coalition status. FORSCOM Reg 600-80-1
2-2. Distinction: Sergeant Audie Murphy Award verses the Sergeant Audie Murphy Club a. This regulation covers the criteria, policies and procedures for the Sergeant Audie Murphy Award. b. This regulation does not cover the operations of Sergeant Audie Murphy Clubs (SAMCs), which are private organizations (POs). As a PO, the SAMC must comply with the PO regulatory guidance of AR 210-22. Any activities of Sergeant Audie Murphy Clubs, such as fundraising and membership, are governed by the Joint Ethics Regulation and applicable Army Regulations. FORSCOM Reg 600-80-1
Interesting, you did not say honorary member (possible but doubtful) and I see no enlisted rank from CPL through MSG/1SG in your profile.
All Active Army, Army Reserve, and Army National Guard NCOs in the ranks of Corporal through Sergeant First Class assigned or attached to TRADOC units are eligible for the SAMC. TRADOC Reg 600-14
SAMA
3-1. Eligibility a. All Active Army, USAR and ARNG Soldiers in the ranks of Corporal through Master Sergeant/First Sergeant, based on FORSCOM installations or attached to FORSCOM units, are eligible for the SAMA. b. ARNG Soldiers who are not in Title 10 status or assigned to a FORSCOM unit may compete for the FORSCOM SAMA while in Title 32 status upon approval of an exception to policy (ETP). The ETP must be submitted to CSM, U.S. Army FORSCOM through the FORSCOM G-1, Sergeant Major (SGM). The ETP must be favorably endorsed by the State ARNG CSM. The ARNG SAMA board packet submitted to the FORSCOM CSM for award approval must contain evidence of compliance with all four phases of the SAMA selection process. c. Service members of other armed services may compete for the FORSCOM SAMA if they are assigned or attached to a FORSCOM unit in a joint coalition status. FORSCOM Reg 600-80-1
2-2. Distinction: Sergeant Audie Murphy Award verses the Sergeant Audie Murphy Club a. This regulation covers the criteria, policies and procedures for the Sergeant Audie Murphy Award. b. This regulation does not cover the operations of Sergeant Audie Murphy Clubs (SAMCs), which are private organizations (POs). As a PO, the SAMC must comply with the PO regulatory guidance of AR 210-22. Any activities of Sergeant Audie Murphy Clubs, such as fundraising and membership, are governed by the Joint Ethics Regulation and applicable Army Regulations. FORSCOM Reg 600-80-1
Interesting, you did not say honorary member (possible but doubtful) and I see no enlisted rank from CPL through MSG/1SG in your profile.
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All the responses are great. I do agree that we should groom our soldiers. However, I don not believe in forcing people to take charge of their progression. I always show my soldiers the benefits and why I support them. At the end of the day, it is up to them. I will focus on those who are ready to take the next step.
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These boards are more about making the SGM/1SG/PSG look good than there are about proving/improving leadership. Prior to commissioning I wore stripes (and even an E-5 "sham shield" once upon a time). I've never understood a test of "soldierness" worth a dam that you could "cram for". Wanna test an NCO, give him or her a ruck and a rifle and send them cross country with a map and a compass. When they hit destination one they zero and qualify, at two they receive an OPORD and lead a fire team or squad through a mission, at three they perform an appropriate task for their MOS. At five...well you get the idea.
Audie Murphy was a terrible garrison soldier, he lied to join the Army as he was under age. His skill and leadership was only genius when he was on the battlefield. When offered a chance to go to USMA after the war he bailed realizing the academic load would have been to much for his poor educational background. I doubt he'd be impressed at all with "his club".
Audie Murphy was a terrible garrison soldier, he lied to join the Army as he was under age. His skill and leadership was only genius when he was on the battlefield. When offered a chance to go to USMA after the war he bailed realizing the academic load would have been to much for his poor educational background. I doubt he'd be impressed at all with "his club".
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I was voluntold for NCO of the quarter board while down range with 4 days heads up. Wasn't real happy about it considering I was section leader (as an E5) and had to prep for the board in addition to completing my daily tasks and missions. Made Battalion, two days later went to Brigade. Got beat by slim margin by an E6 whom had been to the board 6 previous times. Was awarded AAM, Brigade SGM coin and bullet on my NCOER. Looking back on it yeah it sucked. But in the end I realized it tested me, under great pressure ( nothing more intimidating than sitting in the hot seat in front of 6 E9s and never appeared before a board). I think I'm a better NCO for it.
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I sat on an Airforce board once, so I can't render an opinion on this board. But the one u was on I felt was predecide the one airmen that came in that I thought would totally kick ass did not win he was the only one that gave an answer to my hard ass question. When it came time to vote the other members of the board wanted to give it to someone they thought was going to stay in the service, I was not a fan of this airmen myself but he owned that board and was cheated out of it. Just my two cents.
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Isn't it a volunteer board? But then again I understand getting pressured I have had to attend more than my share of boards unprepared and did well however this particular board has very specific study material and it would be hard to wing it promotion/soldier/nco of the month boards are easier to do unprepared because it's about your job.
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If he was considered for an Audie Murphy Board is because they know he is an outstanding NCO and he should feel honored and go.
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