Posted on Feb 20, 2018
Can a Specialist make a Private stand at Parade Rest for him?
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Does general military authority allow a Specialist to require a Private to stand at parade rest for them? There was a previous thread discussing whether a Private should automatically stand at parade rest for a Specialist, but I've seen Specialists over the years tell Privates to stand at parade rest when talking to them. Can Specialists do this? It seems like an abuse of general military authority to me.
Posted 8 y ago
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Not sure if thumbs up means yes they can or if people are agreeing with you that its abuse. I'd say that depends on whether youre the spec 4 or the private. Parade rest is a position of respect for authority and a spec4 is just a corporal without 24/7 leadership responsibility but doesnt mema theu cant lead a detail of subs. Ive seen this done right in front of E5s and E6s and they fully suported the E4 who has much more time in service than the private.
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SSG Carlos Madden
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Let me answer your question as it’s asked. Even those yes a specialist outranks a private, there is no need for the private to stand at parade rest...even more so cause the specialist is not an NCO.
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More an more Joint Service Operation means Senior person in the area might be a Specialist, or heaven forbid, a Petty Officer Third Class like me, (an E-4 by any other name) Chain of Command is a requirement of service, and the Senior Person Present, even when they are an ass, they are still senior service member present
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Specialist really don't have that type of authority over a private in this situation, however, a private does have that option to do so out of respect for that specialist. Most often privates stand at parade rest anyways.
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I get the point that there are micro-managers and those on a power trip and there are times and places for parade function attention rest etc. When an officer walks into a room anyone not currently engaged in an essential task should snap to attention. When receiving instruction you should stand at parade rest unless the superior rank authorizes another posture. This is called disciplined conditioning to authority. This conditioning should be a part of your daily life even after you leave the service. if you automatically fall into parade rest when standing or snap to when you spot butter bars no one would complain. We Americans by nature resist this conditioning. to quote an anecdote from the American Revolution, "You tell a Prussian soldier to jump a fence, he jumps the fence. You tell an American soldier to jump a fence he will look you square in the eyes an asks you why." This is about conditioning. the ability to follow orders and submit to authority automatically is not part of the American culture, as a result, it must be taught and reinforced to have quick responses to directions in a combat situation. like training our bodies to develop muscle memory we must train our minds as well. It should never piss you off to stand at attention or parade rest even for extended periods like formation while waiting for the Captain to finish his coffee and join you on the field. What should piss you off is that captains lack of discipline and responsibility to those under his/her command.
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I know what I was SP4 I ordered a private to retrieve a body which where are my paratroopers was dead in the trees we are cut the tree down to get the body when I told the guy from Graves and registration to get his body he refused he said with my parachute I had to get the parachute and the and the paratrooper explained to him I out rank them and get the fucking body and my parachutes so yes I specialist does a rake a private
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