Posted on Aug 13, 2014
SGT Richard H.
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My daughter is about to start her senior year in High School, and is interested in exploring ROTC scholarships/programs. Specifically, she is interested in public relations or civil affairs. Can anyone offer any advice on where to start (other than an ROTC recruiter) or anything else she might find helpful?
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I'm looking at her goals, specifically her chosen career fields. Civil Affairs is not an accessions branch, meaning she could not commission as a 2LT as CA. In order to go CA, she has to minimally be awarded a basic branch and eligible to attend Captain's Career Course.
If CA is her goal, I would recommend enlisting as CA, going in as an SMP Cadet - after all, maybe she gets a scholarship, maybe not; this way she will have GI Bill and Tuition Assistance to at least partially defray college costs while competing for a scholarship. This would have the added advantage of allowing her to gain some experience as CA before later coming over to the branch and most likely made a Team Leader.
Once she commissions, my advice would be to get at least PL/ Staff time, preferably XO or Company Command prior to re-branching to CA. That keeps her competitive for MAJ whether CA works out for her or not.
A degree in Public Relations would serve her well in several career fields, both civilian and military.
The key for her is to keep options open that help her attain her goals whether or not things less in her control (like scholarships) go the way she plans.

SGT Richard H., If you'd like to discuss this deeper, feel free to reach out directly to me. I actually work this exact job as a civilian in my CA unit in Minnesota.
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1SG (Join to see), did you see the milper message that was released a few days ago for accessions into SF,CA, and PO?
It had good information that could help SGT Hanner.
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Negative Sergeant. I'm not as linked in out here in Africa as I normally am. Do you have a link you can post?
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SGT Hanner,
As a current ROTC Cadet I can say it is an incredible experience. If she is able to get a scholarship there is no better deal. However from what I've heard it is getting very difficult to get a scholarship so I would suggest completing all scholarship requirements ASAP and reaching out to PMS's and schools she is interested in. PMS's have a huge role in the scholarship department. If you/her have any questions for a current cadet please feel free to contact me.
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SGT Richard H.
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Thanks for the response...one question: This is the second response with the "PMS" abbreviation. What is that?
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Professor of military science. Usually a LTC who is in charge of cadet Battalions
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PMS is the ROTC Battalion commander.
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Cadet Command has the ultimate decision on who gets the scholarship or not. Since the scholarship application is through Cadet Command essentially, they review it and decide whether to offer the scholarship or not. Then, after that the school has a choice of taking that cadet or not after they do an interview with the PMS.
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First, I would find a school that she is interested in attending. Talk to the PMS and see what scholarships they have to offer. When I was enlisted, I called just about every school in the country that I was interested in. Texas Tech, Oregon, NC State, the list goes on. Some people will blow you off and some will help you out. That helped me figure out where I wanted to go for the next 3 years. Next, I would find a CA or Public Affairs unit closest to her. She could do SMP with that CA or Public Affairs Reserve unit while she is going through ROTC. I was an SMP Cadet with the 450th CA Bn (A). Civil Affairs is a career for officers who have already served PL and XO, and are usually looking at CPT. Another option available is that she can go to the National Guard. They pay a lot more for school than the reserves. They also have SMP, but no Civil Affairs. That may be a route to consider if she doesn't get a scholarship. Scholarships tend to be very competitive. I hope this helps.
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If your daughter is apply for an ROTC scholarship she should apply to ALL the military academies not just West Point, as well as other universities, since it is so competitive. But, just because it is a military academy it may not be best for her. Like myself... I would have died if I went to West Point for 4 years. Dont like the atmosphere... But positives on West Point is they are assessed first and have better chances of getting their branch choice, as well they are all Active Duty.
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LTC Paul Labrador No, Sir, She has pretty much perfect health, so I don't foresee any waivers. Physical scores will take some work, as she's got a history of being lazy, but for whatever reason, she seemed to turn a corner in the past year and that has changed significantly, so I can get her there. Unfortunately, community service is non existent. She has plans to do that this school year, since she has enough credits to only need about 3-4 classes a day, but I fear it's too little, too late at this point. Does West Point require congressional recommendation letters, etc.? It seems like I remember that being the case.
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Appointments do require Congressional appointments, but to be competitive they look at the "whole person". Good GPA and high test scores are a must, but they want to see involvement beyond merely "going to school". They are truly looking for a well rounded person. Student government, athletics, band, etc are things that make you a stronger candidate. Being a leader within those organizations (team captain, student body officer, etc) even more so.
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I dont know much about West Point, but I do know that time is your biggest enemy when it comes to Congressional nominations. They have to interview every candidate extensively. Not just candidates for West Point, but every candidate that's a resident of their state who wishes to attend a Military Academy. Start the process now!! We had some Cadets from the U of Maryland transfer to the Naval Academy after their Freshman year, its possible but it takes time.
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Can anyone offer any advice on college ROTC for a High School senior?
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She may want to identify a couple schools she is interested in, and then talk to current students at that particular school. The school's admissions office should be able to connect her with someone. Or the school's ROTC Facebook page.
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SGT Richard H.
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Excellent start, Ma'am, and it appears that you are in the same career field that she is interested in. Currently, she is thinking of Texas A&M, UT, or University of Washington.
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LT Jessica Kellogg
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Looks like it. Though my degree has nothing to do with my career field.... I really enjoy it.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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If she's thinking Texas A&M she needs to realize that she will be in the Corps of Cadets and that she may as well be in a military academy, not a regular ROTC program. Just FYI.
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SGT Richard H.
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I did point that out to her....she may be rethinking that one.
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She needs to thoroughly research the ROTC program she is interested in.
Is she more interested in her college grades or being in the military.

Questions to ask would be
How many days of PT do your cadets do a week? (2-3 is good, if more that will eat into your school time.)
How many lab hours in a week? ( usually it should be 2-3) but some times they like to do FTX on Saturday complete with landnav and staying until Sunday. (Could eat into your paper writing and studying time).

More specifically she should speak to female cadets at least 3 of them from various year groups. I'm only saying this because I went to a really large Army ROTC programs that was really heavy in the men department. I would advise her to research Air Force ROTC programs not Army.

Unfortunately I found out too late that I didn't like ROTC a whole lot. And by then my grades had suffered.
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IMO, research the college and its program to see if that's where your daughter wants to study. That is the top priority. Talking to the faculty and current students is also a good way to "feel" what the college or the program is like beside establishing networking.
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She should consider one of the six senior military colleges. Personally I am biased towards VMI, but they are all great. With the cutting back in the number of active duty officers, one of these schools would be her best shot.
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For the Bell County, TX area, specifically Fort Hood-Killeen-Copperas Cover-Harker Heights areas, the Texas A&M University-Central Texas (TAMUCT) ROTC is not only a convenient but also an excellent program. TAMUCT has a brand new campus in the Killeen area, and the ROTC program there offers scholarships that enable students to complete their degree plan of choice along with a Military Science curriculum and commission as a 2nd Lieutenant into the United States Army.
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Explore all your options. APPLY FOR NATIONAL SCHOLARSHIPS NOW! Rank the schools you want. Call the schools that you are interested in attending and build a rapport with the Recruiting Officer. Sometimes, knowing the PMS helps, but what the Enrollment and Scholarship Officer tells the PMS is going to out weigh what the PMS learns just from you.

Choose your major wisely. Cadet Command is getting tired of handing out money to cadets and having cadets change their major and having to add another 1-2 years onto their contract. Now, Cadet Command is saying 'hey you said you would be done in 4years... its going to take you 6? Looks like you better find money for tuition...'

Now, some schools have better scholarships, and some majors get preference.

Best advice I can give you... Go to the college you are interested in attending and meet with the Enrollment and scholarship officer, ROO... Whatever they are calling themselves at that school (Ours goes by two different things ha)

I just commissioned through an ROTC program. I was a two year scholarship because I was enlisted prior to. If your daughter is interested in Public or Civil Affairs than AG is the route to go. (Those are my goals) PA, and CA are Captain slots, so it will take time to make it through the ranks, and it is competitive but very possible.

ROTC recruiters are not like regular Army Recruiters (at least at our school, we arent) she needs to gather the information and make an educated decision.

And, depending on what your daughter wants to get for tuition assistance enlisting may be an option for her. If she completes basic training and AIT she would qualify for Federal Tuition Assistance which is 4500/year, then she would also have her GI bill, qualify for an addition kicker through ROTC which is 350 on top of the kicker and then a stipend through ROTC. Each year it goes up. 300-500 bucks (thats on top of GI Bill, drill check etc) If enlisted and contracted your daughter would get paid as an E5. Some states also offer state tuition reimbursement, which is paid to the student at the end of the semester. so whatever FTA doesnt cover STR would pick up the difference.

Each school only has so many scholarships available.

I just puked out a lot of information, but the best thing is for her to go talk to a ROTC Enrollment Officer at the college she is looking to attend, and APPLY for a scholarship.

I have the step by step process for applying for a scholarship at goarmy.com... If you want it I can email it to you.
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There are several schools in Texas that have good programs. UT is good for Naval ROTC and Texas A&M for the Army. Don't let her rule out some of the smaller schools. UT Arlington (when it was Arlington State) had a great ROTC program and frequently beat the bigger school in competition.
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For the Killeen-Copperas Cove-Harker Heights area, the Texas A&M University (TAMUCT) ROTC program is excellent and convenient. TAMUCT has a new campus in Killeen, and the ROTC program there ROTC offers scholarships that enable students to complete their degree plan of choice along with a Military Science curriculum and commission as a 2nd Lieutenant into the United States Army. The current website is located at: http://www.tamuct.edu/departments/rotc/index.php
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If they want a military college ROTC experience, the senior military colleges are proven sources of creating commissioned officers; Norwich University, The Citadel, VMI, Texas A&M, etc. I've also been told that Embry-Riddle is an excellent place to go if you're interested in commissioning into the Air Force. There are also multiple colleges that provide great ROTC programs, some of the ones that I've heard good things about include Rutgers, Boston College, Holy Cross, and University of Illinois.
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