Posted on Oct 16, 2018
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Im going on the range soon and my previous scores is 299 then 304 but now I want at least a 320.... Anytips that might help me
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CW3 Michael Bodnar
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If you're looking to increase your score slightly, it seems to me that concentrating on the front sight post, trigger pull, and natural point of aim is where you need to focus. Are you using optics or iron sights? I'm a prior service Marine and I hate going to the range with the Army. I miss the days of snapping in and firing for an entire week. It was always a nice two week break from unit life.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
SGT Aaron Atwood
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Optics are the standard now. Haven't seen irons since 2009, but then again I'm a broken timer.
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CW3 Michael Bodnar
CW3 Michael Bodnar
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SGT Aaron Atwood - Warrior, I get you that optics are standard now. However, what happens if those optics fail you in combat (I see the batteries dying all the time)? We should be zeroing and qualifying with these weapons twice, one with iron sights, and the other with optics. This way, if your optics do fail, you can fall back on your iron sights and still perform your mission.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
SGT Aaron Atwood
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CW3 Michael Bodnar I've confirmed with a couple of boots that they train on optics only. I've also never seen backup iron sights on any M16A4 I was issued much less another Marine's. I wholeheartedly agree about irons being there for back up; heck to me recruits should learn and qualify on them first just to see how godforsakenly easy it is to qual using optics. Even some of the boots I talked to at the time considered optics being borderline too easy. One remarked about my first expert qualification happening "back when getting Expert meant something."
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SSgt Nevin Kirkland
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Once you're into your firing position and have good sight picture and alignment, close your eyes and take a 3-4 second deep breath then open them. If your sights are still on target then you're good to go. If you open your eyes and your sight picture has changed, your position isn't good and you need to adjust your body (not your weapon) to regain the sight picture until you can close your eyes for a deep breath and then seen the same picture when you open them back up.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
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Practice your weakest positions. For most of us that's the standing position. For others it's sitting or kneeling. Wouldn't hurt to do some off duty target shooting as well. When you snap in don't snap in on the painted targets. Find a tiny mark like a small rust spot and practice your fundamentals on that. Also good practice if your unit decides to send everyone to a division level shooting match considering the 200 yd portion has a smaller patch of black to aim at.
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Can anyone offer anytips for the USMC rifle range?
SSgt CASS Test Station IMA Advanced Maintenance Technician, IMA
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bone support, strong steady position (especially when it starts to hurt) slow steady trigger pull, breath control, focus on the reticle not the target. take your time when you do your BZO
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Sgt Jude Eschete
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Everything they taught you since bootcamp. Proper bone support, steady breathing, don't stare at the target, slow steady trigger pull. Only shoot at your natural respiratory pause. Dont get rattled if a shot doesn't go where you expect it.
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SSgt Owner/Operator
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Get into your position, get sighted in, breathe in, breathe out, are you still sited? Site in, close your eyes, breathe in, breathe out, open your shooting eye, are you still sited in? If the answer is no then you are muscling your rifle around. Take all the time you need during the slow fire period. There is no rush. The secret is having your entire body in position so when you breathe out the weapon is on target. Practice, practice, practice. When you are tired of practicing, practice some more! I normally shoot in the mid 240s.

For the time portion you have plenty of time to get sited in, do not move your feet when you stand! On the whistle, get back down and spend 10 seconds getting sited as above. Slow is fast here. 1 shot every 2 seconds is good. 10 seconds to switch mags. 5 seconds to site in the second round, 1 shot every 2 seconds. Find a rhythym, relax, you need to almost be a rag doll.

BRASS - breathe (out), RELAX, aim (if it ain't on target then stop here and adjust your body!), stop (breathing), squuuueeeeeeeez. The shot should surprise you.
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SSgt Nevin Kirkland
SSgt Nevin Kirkland
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Very good advice. I just commented before I read yours and said essentially the same thing about breathing and sight picture, but your explanation is much better.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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Breathing and slow steady squeeze to the rear. The fundamentals are there for a reason.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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Only Marine range I ever fired was the KD at Snead's Ferry. The pit crew will put up a marker where your shot hit or Maggie's drawers if you missed
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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Edited 7 y ago
Well you have whole week to shoot to qualify, most points are dropped on the 200 offhand and 300 rapid fire. Must be different course now that I take another look at your post, max back in the day was 250. What I'd do is to first but a good pair of shooting muffs and skip just earplugs, I might also double up and use both plugs and muffs. The firing line is noisy, quieting it down will help your concentration. Second, you can never hold a rifle steady but your looking for the final squeeze as your circles slow and tighten, for offhand you might even control the direction a bit. We used iron sights , so I'm supposing you guys are using red dots, but you can still start under the bull and let it drift up into the bull as your squeezing the trigger. Got to be slow you can't chase the bullseye. But good solid positions are key, snapping in week is boring and it sucks a bit, but that's really basic too.
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SSgt Owner/Operator
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Unless you are a reservist. Then you have a 1/2 day. 10 rounds to site in then you are shooting for score. Always qualified expert but we only went to the range once every 3 years or so.
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PO3 David Fries
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Find a good PMI!
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