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Prior service with 5+ years out, VA disability, looking to return to service (active duty) as an officer. Prior service Marine looking at Air Force or Army. I have been out of the country, government contracting. I tried to contact recruiters vis linkedin as well as both AF and Army website direct recruiter contact. I get help but not as much as I need as they both kinda brush me off because I'm not physically in the states yet and also because I have 40% disability so they want their CMO to look at my civilian and military medical records first, oh and I have to have my benefits stopped before I even speak with them..

Anyone have any recommendations on what the process or how hard it was for you when going back in or trying to and perhaps what type of things you had to do and just really what the whole process was like and perhaps what all you had to do? My VA disability is 40%, according to both recruiters I must give up my VA (which is true, of course) - I contacted VA already and they said all I have to do is fill out a form to request my benefits to freeze due to returning to active service. I don't care about going to either branch basic and ait or tech school. Just care to get back in.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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LTC Program Manager
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Your actual medical conditions will determine if you can reenter service. The VA uses a completely different set of rules to determine disability than the military does for service readiness. There really is no relationship between the two.

Best of luck.
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Cpl Parker Swift
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Thank you LTC. I did try to do as much research as possible so I can be prepared for the outcomes but also to ensure whatever packet I submit, I'm fully aware on what's going on. Most of my medical opinions were based off the DOD 6130.03,
"MEDICAL STANDARDS FOR MILITARY SERVICE: RETENTION"

Thanks again for the response!
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If you are rated as 40% disabled, you're probably not going to pass a commissioning physical for the Army or Air Force. The physical requirements for commissioning are significantly more stringent than the physical requirements for enlisting.

You didn't state your age, but you're out of the military over five years and (I assume) four years of college, you might already be at or above the maximum age for commissioning in these services.

Honestly, you might have a better chance joining the Reserves, commissioning there and trying to join active duty after that
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Cpl Parker Swift the rule is you must commission before age 34.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Cpl Parker Swift - As SFC Boyd stated, you must commission before age 34. The Army Reserve allows you to start at age 35, and as I mentioned above, 42 in the National Guard. But even if you just turned 33, getting a packet together, boarded and getting a class seat that allows you to finish before you turn 34 will be a push. Age waivers are possible, again I will tell you to talk to Officer Recruiting to see what the current policy is on the subject.
From what I see, you need to talk to officer recruiting about three issues, one is your age, two would be if your VA disabilities can make it through MEPS, and three is if your packet is competitive enough to be in that 60%. You can debate Regulations and Policies, but they are the people that make the rules.
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Cpl Parker Swift
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You gents are awesome and I appreciate all the feedback and insight. Thank you!
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PO2 Robert Sangari
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The information shown here is out of current. Ages 18-40 and complete OTS Training by age 40. (NO WAIVERS), this is right in the AFRS SOPG which is not available to the public but your recruiter will have it. My application was accepted, and I'm 36 years old..37 this year, prior service too. I would recommend as prior service to check out the AFMAN 36-2032. Has a lot of information. To obtain the most up-to-date policy, you should speak with a recruiter as soon as possible. However, given your age, I would recommend the Army over the Air Force because you have some extra time.
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You would have to enlist in the Army to attend OCS and OCS is competitive. That means you have to be physically capable of passing MEPS, a four year degree, a good GPA and a good set of LOR's. If you are interested, there is usually a Officer Recruiting team associated with each recruiting area. If you can get through MEPS, you are dead in the water already.
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Thanks for your response. I've graduated a four year college with a good GPA, I believe I got a 3.0+ I think it was 3.7 GPA.. Should be able to pass MEPS, I don't have any physical abilities that would limit me to not pass and I am still capable of landing a 300 on a PT. But I'll have to look into that ORT at my local recruiting station, so thanks.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Cpl Parker Swift - A 3.7 GPA should be competitive, and they will look at your enlisted record too. VA Disability Rating is not the same as a Disqualifying item on the PULHES, and that would be the big issue, passing the MEPS Physical. You seem to be aware that you can't pull a VA Pension on Active Duty and will have to suspend payments.
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Can anyone shed some light on the process for prior service w/ VA, going back in active as an officer?
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You've been out for 5 plus years, I highly recommend that you better hurry up and get your application into the AirForce. According to the October 21 SOPG, under Table D-1 line 45 (pg 50) it states:

An applicant is ineligible if:
- Has been separated from a regular component of the Armed Forces for 6 or more years.

BUT, then it states to refer to 5.30 for an enlisted eligibility determination, so it's possible to get a waiver but has to be approved by the recruiting command. **THIS IS FOR ENLISTED TO ENLISTED - ONLY** This rule does not apply for prior's going from enlisted to commission. If you are prior (which you are) you don't have to worry about this limit, no the slots. Going officer you are treated just like a fresh civilian.

When a recruiter knows you have been or are collecting VA disability, generally they instantly consider you to be a disqualify. This is because you have a disability but they will need to see what exactly that disability is. Your recruiter will review it and forward it to the CMO for a review and determination. So it depends on the severity of your disability and if it's classified as a DQ under DoDI 6130.03 Volume 1. But you need to weigh the fact that if you tell the VA you are no longer disabled and give up your VA payment, if you do not get selected by the officer board, you can't just turn around and say, oh, my knees hurt again, so you may wind up losing your VA disability forever. Only you can decide it it's worth it to you.

OTS selection is not a slam dunk process because you have a degree. You need to be selected and you have to apply like you would for a school scholarship or job application. Remember AirForce has dorms, not barracks. They have jobs, not and MOS. A board of senior Air Force officers at HQ AFRS will review your application. Selection is competitive and based on your desires, qualifications (such as aeronautical ratings, type bachelors or master's degree, or civilian or military specialty skills), and specific Air Force manpower needs. Each applicant is evaluated for character, academic accomplishments, community service, and leadership potential. As part of the selection process, board members review both objective and subjective factors. Objectively, the board considers each applicants academic discipline, and AFOQT scores. Subjectively, board members evaluated work experience, accomplishments, adaptability, character, leadership ability, potential for future growth, and other recommendations. For active duty enlisted members, performance reports and commanders recommendations are also evaluated. A minimum of three AF Colonels reviews every application. The selection process is similar to an AF Officer Promotion board. Key to the entire process is that no single factor leads to an individual's selection.

You need to make sure you meet the minimum qualifications for commission as an officer first which are as follows:

Age: 18 - 40 (Must join before 29 for rated jobs like Pilot, Air Battle Manager, and Combat Systems Officer)
Four-year bachelor's degree, or be within 1 year of obtaining it with a signed document from your school saying you can complete it within a year
US Citizen (by birth or naturalization, but must be a full US Citizen)
No disqualifying medical/mental health/criminal problems

Meeting these criteria is the bare minimum – a competitive applicant will have a strong college GPA (ideally in a STEM field), past leadership experience, good AFOQT scores, and a strong personal statement about why you want to join the Air Force. Selection truly is based on a “whole person” concept; one strong section will not guarantee selection just as one weak section will not exclude you from selection (assuming you meet the minimums of course). I did see an earlier post stating that you were past the age for OTS, according to the SOPG, you can accept

Since you are claiming VA, you will need to make sure you bring ALL of your medical documentation. Every single paper, from civilian to military. You already said it but make sure you get a most recent medical done so everything is current. Your recruiter is going to want to look at it and they will need to hand it over to the CMO. The CMO will require you to submit that initial claim evaluation from the VA when your rating got approved. If the CMO approves you, then your clear to been by MEPS. That is the umbrella process.

As with enlisting, you must work with a recruiter to go through the OTS application process. You must work with a dedicated officer recruiter that covers your region to submit your application package. Contact information for your local officer recruiter is generally hard to find and it will probably take a few weeks of chasing leads and unanswered phone calls before you are able to establish contact with them. A good day is going on the AirForce website and speaking with the live chat to have them provide you with the direct contact for the officer recruiter. You could also download an app called "Aim High Us Air Force" which will give you recruiters information as well. Reaching out to your local enlisted recruiter is a solid first step, although be prepared to be screened by having to take a practice ASVAB and some recruiters may push you to enlist instead.I recommend you try to score a 90 on that practice ASVAB. It looks appealing!

For the application package, this is what is sent to the selection board for review and isn't dissimilar from the college application. Here are the things it will consist of and also things you should take note of.

Your Degree/GPA is important. Not sure what yours is? But you will be required to submit official transcripts from every college you’ve attended. If you have yet to graduate you will be required to complete a form that shows you are scheduled to graduate within the next 365 days. This form is usually filled out by your advisor or the registrar’s office but each school will vary slightly in the process. The minimum GPA for applicants is 2.50 and STEM degrees are valued. That’s not to say that non-STEM degree holders cannot be selected – there are plenty of pilots with history and music degrees. Average GPA for those selected is closer to the 3.5+ range for most boards, but again, if you have a poor GPA, you may still be selected if you have a strong application in other areas.

The AFOQT or Air Force Officer Qualifying Test is a standardized test that all officer applicants must take, whether they come through OTS or ROTC. It is similar to the SAT or ACT in that it is an academic test – it is not necessarily an aptitude test like the ASVAB. The test consists of twelve sections that are combined in various permutations to produce five composite scores: Pilot, Navigator, Academic Aptitude, Verbal, and Quantitative. If you are applying for a rated position you will also receive Air Battle Manager and Combat Systems Officer scores. There are charts online that show how the composite scores are calculated from the individual sections.

The test is completed at your local MEPS station just like when you enlisted, or sometimes a local AFROTC detachment if available, and I recommend wearing a watch to keep track of the time, sometimes the proctor will not provide an easily visible clock. Smart watches are prohibited in the testing area, along with calculators, phones, or any other electronic devices. I would very strongly advise against taking it without having studied a bit and taken some timed practice tests. Taking your practice tests while timing yourself is key; the material isn’t extraordinarily difficult but the short time allotted for each section will kill you if you aren’t ready for it. You can only take the AFOQT twice in your life, with a roughly six month waiting period between attempts, so make sure you study and nail it the first time, or it'll delay your application even longer. Most recruiters want a combined minimum of 150 on the Academic Aptitude, Verbal, and Quantitative sections, though a competitive applicant should look to be higher than that.

Your package will also contain letters of recommendation detailing your abilities as an employee, leader, student, etc. The number of letters required seems to vary by recruiter but you should count on needing three to five strong letters. They can come from anyone except immediate family, but my advice is to have some diversity in your sources. I was required to submit three letters and I used an undergrad professor, a grad school professor I also worked for, and a former employer I’ve known since I was a child. Some people get hung up on titles and will attempt to get letters from the most impressive people they know regardless of the strength of their relationship. Yes, it looks nice to have a letter from that O-6 or state senator your parents know, but I believe that a sincere letter from someone who can honestly speak on your positive qualities carries more weight than a generic letter from someone who barely knows you, and anyone reading the letters will be able to tell how well the author knows you.

You will also need a personal statement. Your personal statement is your chance to show the board why you want to join the Air Force and why you would make a strong officer. It's your only opportunity to dress the board directly and show why you should be selected outside of your standardized metrics like GPA and AFOQT scores. The statement is limited to 20 lines so you have to be concise. I strongly recommend working through various drafts for a few weeks until you find something that you’re happy with. The space constraint is going to force you to leave out things you want to say so work on it for a while and eventually you’ll get it to a point that you’re content. Every word counts here so having someone read it over is not a bad idea.

As long as your medical has been approved by the CMO and you're clear to been by MEPS. Then at some point you will go to your local MEPS which I know you already know, but you'll need to complete a physical again. Since you are claiming VA disability yours will be a little bit longer but this is nothing more than a comprehensive physical to make sure you are fit for service. You will do hearing and vision tests, give blood for testing, give urine for urinalysis, fill out a form documenting your entire medical history, meet with the MEPS doctor one-on-one to go over any questions they may have about your medical history, and do some basic exercises to demonstrate dexterity. You will then meet with a second doctor to do a very brief one-on-one physical that includes checking of your testicles/vagina and anus, so don’t be shocked by this. One tip: make sure your ears are clean and wash your anus before you get seen. This is the same physical that the you did when you enlisted, albeit some things were added but there are a ton of sources online that go over it in depth, so I won’t bother re-explaining it here. You will need to bring all of your medical records from civilian to VA, they will actually have a copy already.

Last step and after your transcripts and AFOQT results are in you will be scheduled for an interview with an officer that is part of your local recruiting squadron. This is similar to a standard job interview, although they tend to focus a little more on leadership than on specific skills or education you may have. Wear a suit, shave, and have a nice clean hair cut before going and everything will be fine.

Good luck!
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Cpl Parker Swift
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Holy cow that was a lot of information! Man I really need to process this and get back to if you don't mind, I got some questions but I want to make sure my thoughts are in order and your messaged is processed mentally, lol. Very helpful though man seriously and just what I was looking for. Dang man just thanks for real for sharing the whole process of everything. Yeah I need to go see one ASAP which is why I'm leaving soon. I think just the big part for me is my disability and the bresk in service time.
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PO2 Robert Sangari
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Cpl Parker Swift - No problem brother, I don't mind helping out. I'll be shipping soon so if you have any further questions that have gone unanswered feel free to send me a private message and I will do my best to give you the right insight, direct and uncut. I can also provide you with my recruiters information who have been very helpful. Just send me a private message when you can.
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I wish that someone had been there to help me with this problem, I was trying to figure out reenlisting during my time in Iraq and Afghanistan and ended up doing the wrong thing and re upped. I'm not saying that is wrong for you my friend, remember that you have already been there and have nothing to prove but a lot too lose.Look at the pros and cons before you decide to do something life altering brother.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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You’ll have to pass a commissioning physical at MEPS and meet entry level standards. Turning off VA Conpensation is the easy part.

I take it you are looking to commission via Army OCS or USAF OTS. Those will be very competitive. I do t know if you have a degree or license that would allow for a medical direct commission program, but all will have the same physical requirements.
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Cpl Parker Swift
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Thanks for the response! When enlisting but going commission, is there something in the contract that states your going to OCS after Basic?
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Cpl Parker Swift the Army does but you have to see an Officer recruiter. The hometown recruiter will just tell you to enlist and do an OCS packet at your unit. This is hands down hardest way to do OCS.

You need to locate an officer recruiter and do your OCS packet before you ship.
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Cpl Parker Swift
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Got it, thanks for the information! You are right about what the recruiter would say because that is exactly what he just told me today when I reached out. Enlist first then submit a packet. He didn't say anything about seeing an officer recruiter so I will keep that in mind
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Cpl Parker Swift
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Found out the code for anyone in the future that wants to know. Should have 09S somewhere in the contract. You'll go to BCT and then OCS after.
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There is an RE Code on your DD214. RE-4 you would have to petition for an upgrade and then require waivers. RE-3 would need pretty high waivers but can be worked depending on what caused the code, RE-1 or 2 pretty easy. To address the VA compensation issue that you are currently receiving. If you deny that for any reason, to include re-enlistment of the armed services, you can never claim those same disabilities with the VA again. To clarify lets say you have 40% for PTSD, then you "FREEZE" that compensation to join the Army again. In order to receive VA compensation again, you would have to injured again in a way completely unrelated to the previous condition. As a former recruiter who tried to help many prior service guys out before they dropped their benefits, I'm telling you check everything before you sign off on anything. If you have to Call MEPs and ask the doc yourself what the likelihood of passing a physical is. Personal OPINION though, if you have anything over 30% its never worth it!
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I really appreciate the response. I guess I should have clarified on the RE code which mine is 1, but that information you provided was helpful and perhaps will definitely help others in suit so thanks for that!! Yeah I guess that's a pretty big weight and I do believe somewbere I did read about that with the VA and not being able to claim those disabilities.

Anyway you as a former recruiter I would love to hear your insight. If you like Starbucks I'd love to get you a gift card just for your honest time!

My disability as follows;

tinnitus also claimed as ringing in ears 10% Service Connected

instability right knee 10% Service Connected

patellofemoral pain syndrome right knee 10% Service Connected
with meniscal tear and degenerative joint
disease

patellofemoral pain syndrome left knee 10% Service Connected
with degenerative joint disease

instability left knee 10% Service Connected

I have been doing as much research as possible on my disabilities and what qualifies for a DQ at MEPS. I know every situation is different and each waiver is handled on a case-by-case basis but I'm rather looking for any guidance, suggestions or any recommendations that you think I should make.

According to some random sources online, MEPS dq's for degenerative of any "major" joint, so for my specific case, knees, and the instability of any knee.
When doing my VA, I did not see an actual VA doctor. I did do my VA while doing government contracting in Kuwait in which, I'm not sure just at how accurate their findings were to be honest. I did not get a second look at it, and the actual VA has not personally looked it. This was done at a private Kuwaiti hospital. This is what they found based off my MRI, but after researching symptoms and such, I don't feel like I meet any of those. I feel fine and, I know I can land a 300 on the PT test.

I've been looking into those disabilities of knee instability and degenerate joint diseases and acquiring secondary expert opinions from private practitioners. Were based off MEPS DOD 6130.03?

According to the DOD 6130.03 none of my conditions qualify under a DQ, and I am hoping to acquire opinion. My goal here is the father additional information as well as additional MRI, XRAY and reports by various doctors in support of evidence to my condition

Regardless of what VA has rated me or diagnosed me with—if I am able to provide and show compelling evidence that such conditions are healed and or do not exist (misconstrued) and/or do not affect the ability of service or my performance according to military standards——would this possibly be sufficient?

I know regardless, I'd still be required to be reviewed by the CMO as well as being approved by MEPS I'm confidence I can get favorable results. I just want to build my package as strong as possible since I only have one shot at doing this, and to be able to provide as much evidence and information as humanly possible BEFORE coming in physically, in person.

Below is Information that supports my case and conditions regarding DOD 6130.03 if that is what was based off MEPS instruction.

Anyway, wanted to know your thoughts and guidance.

DOD INSTRUCTION 6130.03,
VOLUME 2 MEDICAL STANDARDS FOR MILITARY SERVICE: RETENTION

Effective September 04, 2020

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/613003v2p.pdf?ver=2020-09-04-120013-383

VA Disability Claiming 40% - Awarded on 07/21/2017

instability right knee

patellofemoral pain syndrome right knee with meniscal tear and degenerative joint
disease
patellofemoral pain syndrome left knee with degenerative joint disease

instability left knee

All conditions have been cleared, according to DOD 6130.03, VOLUME 2 MEDICAL STANDARDS FOR MILITARY SERVICE: RETENTION.
See quoted sections and notes indicated in #.

5.19. GENERALIZED CONDITIONS OF THE MUSCULOSKELETAL SYSTEM.
When considering the conditions listed in this paragraph, the condition must persist despite appropriate treatment and impair function so as to preclude satisfactory performance of required military duties of the member’s office, grade, rank, or rating. Conditions in this paragraph do not meet retention standards if medical clearance cannot be given for safe participation in Service-specific physical fitness testing.

a. Persistent symptoms after any dislocation, subluxation, or instability of the hip, knee, ankle, subtalar joint, foot, shoulder, hand, wrist, or elbow.

# Response to instability of knee.

# Have not ever had any dislocation. Saying condition must persist despite treatment and persist after dislocation.

5.18. LOWER EXTREMITY CONDITIONS.
When considering the conditions listed in this paragraph, the condition must persist despite appropriate treatment and impair function so as to preclude satisfactory performance of required military duties of the member’s office, grade, rank, or rating. Conditions in this paragraph do not meet retention standards if medical clearance cannot be given for safe participation in Servicespecific physical fitness testing.

c. Chronic foot, leg, knee, thigh, and hip conditions, such as: (1) Chronic anterior knee pain; (2) Instability after knee ligament reconstruction; or (3) Recurrent stress fracture.

# Response to instability of knee.

# Saying must persist even after proper treatment and in the way of performance. In addition, its saying instability AFTER knee reconstruction. No reconstruction occurred or does not persist before or after.

5.16. SPINE AND SACROILIAC JOINT CONDITIONS.
When considering the conditions listed in this paragraph, the condition must persist despite appropriate treatment and impair function to preclude satisfactory performance of required military duties of the Service member’s office, grade, rank, or rating. Conditions in this paragraph do not meet retention standards if medical clearance cannot be given for safe participation in Service-specific physical fitness testing.

b. Radicular or non-radicular pain involving the cervical, thoracic, lumbosacral, or coccygeal spine, whether idiopathic or secondary to degenerative disc or joint disease.

# Backup response to 'joint disease' for my disability of "degenerative joint disease".

# Nothing in DOD 6130.03, VOLUME 2 MEDICAL STANDARDS FOR MILITARY SERVICE: RETENTION, states anything about specific knee degenerative joint disease, but does mention about joint disease. In DOD 6130.03, Section 5.16 as quoted above, it mentions joint disease (underlined in red), but only for the Spine and SACROILIAC. The sacroiliac joints connect the base of the spine (sacrum) to the hip bones (ilium), thus stating nothing about the knee.

I went ahead and got rechecked on those disabilities with proper MRI and the doctors could not find any issue with my knees saying they are fine which I do have the MRI report stating so as well. I will be able to include this to my medical packet. As when I first got rated was back in 2017 and the recent MRI I did was in 2021.
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Cpl Parker Swift
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With the RE code 1 you are in a good standing as far as the that goes.
To address the medical if it is truly what you want to to, first be ready for a long road of "we are waiting on this" or "the doc what more paperwork on that".

If you want to build the strongest packet possible, in my experience you need to get medical exams to clear you of each condition. A blanket statement is never good enough.

Along with this exams have the doc write a statement explaining that the condition either never did, or no longer does exist. And there are no signs of it being aggravated by physical activity or training.

Third, gather character statements from significant community influences whom can attest to your capabilities. I.e. work boss, gym trainer, church leader who runs volunteer groups, stuff like that. A minimum of 3 max of 5.

As far as the regulations, those change on a daily basis in recruiting so you can't go off what you find on the internet. I wish the best for you man, and hope you get through. But I can't express enough, most of this workload and risk(in your case with the VA rating) will be on you. And nothing will be guaranteed.
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SSG (Join to see) - Thanks for taking the time to respondmninwanted to wait until I had time to fully sit down and not just make a quick reply but to actually read through your response because you have some very important information. I did give you a thumbs up earlier though when I saw your response and read it but now I'll make my response. Again thank you for seriously taking the time to respond, read my response and just provide your opinion and insight from your experience.

I definitely have a blanket statement when I got those MRI done. I didn't even think about that in the sense of getting each of those medicals;
instability right knee 10% Service Connected

patellofemoral pain syndrome right knee 10% Service Connected
with meniscal tear and degenerative joint
disease

patellofemoral pain syndrome left knee 10% Service Connected
with degenerative joint disease

instability left knee 10% Service Connected

-- examined and cleared. That blanket statement that I have was done back in 2021 and I think it would be worth my packet to also get another for 2022 right before I go in and see a recruiter and that way it's current but this time clearing me of each issue. But also most importantly along with each of those conditions for my knee clears but also to be mentioned it make sure that they mention about the condition doesn't prevent me or shows "no signs of it being aggravated by physical activity or training." Very, very, very solid recommendation.

The character statement will probably be a good idea as well. It might not carry much weight for the CMO, maybe it will maybe it won't, it can at least validate my condition. I might even ask the recruiter to write me one especially if I can get them to run me a mock PT. Maybe when they do a poole meeting or something. I think that would be helpful as well. But yeah this was also a very solid recommendation. Min 3, max 5. Got it.

Your also right about the regulations changing on a daily basis, and each recruiter that I have talked to also said the same so it would be in my best interest to do things as quickly as possible. I'll make sure I update this thread on my progress because someone else is bound to be in my shoes or something similar and I think your post as well as others have provided some fresh insight on what we prior service are kind of up against.

I really want to take like the third or fourth time to just saying thank you again. Your response was a type of response I was looking for and just kinda need to see in reading, because the recruiters I speak with being away at a distance I'm not getting much information it's just "you really need to just come in and see us" and I get that but I wanna come in their with all the paperwork I have and also of what they might or need to see to send up to the CMO etc. So just having that extra paperwork that could possibly help my packet is just helpful so I really appreciate it.

My game plan is to make sure I score well on the pretest, and for the ASVAB or AFOQT, whichever route I am able to take. I'm not biased on the branches so whichever one can help me get in, I'm going to go that route but Army and Air Force is what I'm going to try and from there I'll also explore the Navy. But either way make sure I do well on the test. Have my civilian, and military records prep, get those referrals, also wrote essay statement on why I want to become an officer (I saw somewhere someone had to do this) and just be ready to do well on any pt test.

I guess from here we'll see how it goes.
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You cannot get VA disability while on active duty status.
You should not have to stop your benifits before starting active duty.

Sorry you are struggling to get a recruiter to asssit. Being overseas probably does not help but there are recruiters everywhere.

I'm assuming you have looked into the requirements to commision.... your other option would be, as CPT Cable mentioned, enlist again for OCS or regular enlistment and then apply for OCS. The reserves has direct commisioning but also requires membership before submitting a packet (you can keep your VA while in the reserve).
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Cpl Parker Swift
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Thanks for your response, I do believe you did not read my post and just the question. I did state that I already know you cannot collect disability while on active status, and that fact is very true which again I did mention I would be waiving my rights to collect disability and in doing so I would gladly do. This response is for future individuals whom are in my shoes, the VA form (according to the VA) that needs to filed is the VA Form 20-572, Request for Change of Address/Cancellation of Direct Deposit.
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Cpl Parker Swift
Cpl Parker Swift
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Thanks for editing your post to provide some additional information although not really helpful in regards to the insight of the process rather than reciting what was already said, I still thank you for taking the time to come back and add any information to share. Yes, while reserve components can collect VA, active duty cannot most recruiters I've found don't really want to sit and talk unless I am no longer collecting any VA.
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MAJ Military Personnel And Administrative Specialist
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None of us can directly help you. You need to find a recruiter willing to work with you as you are - They are the only ones that can get you a new contract/back in service.
You only said you are out of the states - doesn't help us get you a point of contact.
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Cpl Parker Swift
Cpl Parker Swift
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Yes of course which is more or less why I was asking about the process.. lol, but thanks for trying I appreciate you taking the time to respond nonetheless.
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Air Force is going to be a lot harder than Army. They have a prior service quota and they are very strict in who they allow in. Even if you are going Officer, you are still prior service.
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Cpl Parker Swift
Cpl Parker Swift
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That is correct in regards to the quota. Thanks for your response, are you able to provide any additional information?
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For Marines, go see the Officer Selection Officer in your local area.
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