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My unit is going to JRTC to early April and I have a report date of May 17. I was trying to take a month of PCS Leave with 11 days before that of nonchargeable parental leave as per the new policy. Due to our training they denied and told me to either combine them and make a month, or forget the parental leave.
Basically I’m just wondering is this a thing? Am I just screwed by this JRTC?
Basically I’m just wondering is this a thing? Am I just screwed by this JRTC?
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Posted 7 y ago
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Yes, the Commander is the approving authority for leave. But only the commander, not your squad leader, not your platoon sergeant, etc.
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SSG Dave Johnston
My unit will be at JRTC until end of march/early April. My leave would have been April 5th, but without the parental it will be the 15th. I would start out processing immediately when we get back.
My unit will be at JRTC until end of march/early April. My leave would have been April 5th, but without the parental it will be the 15th. I would start out processing immediately when we get back.
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SSG Dave Johnston
SPC (Join to see) -Damn; Doesn't even give you time to clean your TA-50. Can Parental leave be denied?
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Yes, a commander can approve or deny leave, that's how leave works.
If it is codified in a regulation, it is "a thing".
In this case it sounds like 30 total days of leave will be approved, whether you want to make some of those days nonchargeable or not, and that sounds like enough for a PCS.
What's the problem?
If it is codified in a regulation, it is "a thing".
In this case it sounds like 30 total days of leave will be approved, whether you want to make some of those days nonchargeable or not, and that sounds like enough for a PCS.
What's the problem?
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Report date + Authorized travel time to your new duty station = Last date you can sign out of your unit.
What will be the date the day after you return from JRTC?
Personally check the post policy for the number of days authorized to clear post (2 weeks?).
Date after day you return from JRTC + Clearing time (2 weeks) = Date you can reasonably expect to sign out of your unit.
Report date - Date you can reasonably expect to sign out of your unit = Leave days available.
Note: if you are the secondary caregiver, you may find that the policy on uncharged parental leave policy states commander "may" authorize X days of leave. "May" means optional. "Must" or "will" means it isn't optional.
What will be the date the day after you return from JRTC?
Personally check the post policy for the number of days authorized to clear post (2 weeks?).
Date after day you return from JRTC + Clearing time (2 weeks) = Date you can reasonably expect to sign out of your unit.
Report date - Date you can reasonably expect to sign out of your unit = Leave days available.
Note: if you are the secondary caregiver, you may find that the policy on uncharged parental leave policy states commander "may" authorize X days of leave. "May" means optional. "Must" or "will" means it isn't optional.
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Command can deny damn near any kind of leave. Did you talk to them about it, or are you whining. Do you have your orders yet? Have you started working out appts?
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No orders yet. I was told my leave fork has to get approved in order to do a request for orders through S1, which it wasn’t.
I’ve talked to them about it(I’m also whining a little), and they’ve made it clear that my only option is to either forget about the parental, or take less chargeable and combine the parental if I still want to take a month.
I’ve talked to them about it(I’m also whining a little), and they’ve made it clear that my only option is to either forget about the parental, or take less chargeable and combine the parental if I still want to take a month.
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also forgot to mention I have to have my orders before JRTC to turn in a month prior to get out of my lease while I’m on PCS leave.
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Do you have your clearing papers in hand, how long is the Unit suppose to be at JRTC, where is your new unit? It's Reporting Date minus Travel time , minus 2 weeks to clear post; even without adding in leave, will your Unit be down range when you're suppose to start clearing post? Something to ask "command' about, ya think? What do you have to clear that requires an appointment, has this been brought to the attention of your CoC?
What nonsense is being perpetuated by leadership when you use an asset that won't be available?
What nonsense is being perpetuated by leadership when you use an asset that won't be available?
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