Posted on May 11, 2023
Can I be denied receiving a 'Go' for a promotion board if I accidentally use gender pronouns? Should I get the IG involved?
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I recently just attended the E-5 promotion board and absolutely nailed it. Uniform, confidence, presence was on point. Answered questions correctly and to the best of my ability. Walked out of the board feeling like a million bucks. I am waiting for my sponsor to come out, and he says I received a 'No-Go' because on the first question I was asked I referred to a soldier as "he should" instead of "the soldier should." This apparently was the decision that prevented me from being promotable according to my sponsor, despite answering the other 9 questions I was asked to a T.
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Promotion Board
Inspector General
Equal Opportunity (EO)
Enlisted
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If your account is correct, perhaps the board was justified in denying your promotion. How are you going to treat a transgender person when they get assigned to your squad/team? If your religion already makes you prejudice against them how are you going to treat them fairly, like you want the board to treat you?
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If your account is correct, perhaps the board was justified in denying your promotion. How are you going to handle a "Transgender" person when they are assigned to your squad/team? If your religion already makes you prejudice against them how are you going to treat them fairly, as you want the board to do with you?
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PFC Lisa McDonald
Transgender is an activist word and should never been allowed into DOD parlance. In fact using the word Transgender violates legal changes of sex and the full faith and credit clause of the United States Constitution. There is no legal right or has ever been to refer to a person that has legally changed their birth certificate as "transgender" without their consent. Transgender is not a diagnostic term in either mental health or physical health. Again its activist language and really sexually predatory language.
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Last I checked everyone in the Army is a soldier! Honestly, I am not a fan of "Transgender" I do however think its more important to focus on soldering more than the gender of the soldier. I think its as important to women and maybe more so than it is to "transgender" activist.
Soldier is an umbrella term and is neutral. Again honestly, I cannot see a legitimate religious complaint about calling a soldier a soldier or a SGT a SGT etc. No need for gender pronouns and better without them.
Soldier is an umbrella term and is neutral. Again honestly, I cannot see a legitimate religious complaint about calling a soldier a soldier or a SGT a SGT etc. No need for gender pronouns and better without them.
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PFC Lisa McDonald
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - I have a dual degree with greek honors in psychology and human services. I take it you were an English major and are one of those spelling Nazis. You totally can't comprehend military jargon or any professional jargon breaks with traditional language and its rules.
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PFC Lisa McDonald
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Also I am verified as a Veteran by Rallypoint. So I guess there also goes your troll accusation up in smoke.
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I'm just happy I retired when I did as I would never join the military today.Everything is upside down.
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I'm old school....but the whole "woke" bullshit is, in my opinion, exactly that. That being said, getting the IG involved is the last option. This is just my thoughts, but if that is where the army is going, get out. Ain't worth compromising your morals.
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If it were me, i would advise the 1SG and my plan and then I would request a meeting with the CSM and ask that question the the CSM, point blank. Most CSMs will be open to giving direct feedback. Additionally, ask to see the board member appraisal worksheets. If that is indeed the case, ask to speak to BC and BDE vommand teams before going to IG. Hope this helps.
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That sounds like a very bullcrap thing for the board to do. But at least your NCO support channel didn't tell you to get all of your stuff prepared for the promotion board and to show up on the day of the board and wait for your sponsor to show up and they never show. That's what happened to me.
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You answered the way you know how, if the SGM has a problem then he is using his own personal experience and that’s a conflict of interest and he or she should recuse themselves
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