Posted on May 11, 2023
Can I be denied receiving a 'Go' for a promotion board if I accidentally use gender pronouns? Should I get the IG involved?
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I recently just attended the E-5 promotion board and absolutely nailed it. Uniform, confidence, presence was on point. Answered questions correctly and to the best of my ability. Walked out of the board feeling like a million bucks. I am waiting for my sponsor to come out, and he says I received a 'No-Go' because on the first question I was asked I referred to a soldier as "he should" instead of "the soldier should." This apparently was the decision that prevented me from being promotable according to my sponsor, despite answering the other 9 questions I was asked to a T.
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
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Quit thinking that the IG can do anything. They can't. I went to Sgt King, Fort Benning IG over an order that was not able to be followed. The IG got in touch with the Commander, who said he would take it under "advisement." No one has to listen to ANYTHING that the IG, or for that matter, the EEO says. My career hung in that balance and I lost everything because I had a "commander" that decided a "peer" was telling the truth about me somehow finding out where this peer was staying over Christmas Exodus and going to that place. Without regards to the 7 eyewitness statements and my mother's affadavidt stating that I was with her in Georgia. Not in Kansas where we later found out that this peer was staying - at her Parent's house, after I sued her for libel, slander, and defamation, put her everyone at that house on the stand where they admitted that no one saw me in Kansas and the "peer Ms. Pamela J. Hall, admitted that she lied because she did not want to be recycled. It is all in the official Kansas City Court transcript. Commanders don't care how far fetched the story that someone tells is. Mr. Carl Bergaman sure did not. I ended up witing my names named nonfiction book because of what they did. For years afterward I wondered where was MY protection against something like that. And then someone told me that The IG and EEO can only advise. They can not force a commander to do anything. So they did not, and I paid the price.
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Welcome to Uncle Sam's or should I say Aunt Sam's modern day twisted military that can only get worse every day. ETS might be your best bet. That light in the tunnel is in fact a train.
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I retired going on 7 years now and I was seeing some of this back then. I do not agree with the direction the military is going. I hope you get promoted...so you can make little changes from within that can lead to strengthening then military. Good luck and keep the faith that you can make a difference.
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Gender pronouns? Why? Sounds like someone who wants promotion based upon sex/orientation/race rather than accomplishment. No soup for you
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If it is exactly as you say, you should take to someone starting with your chain of command.
I do not understand “misgendering”. SM’s are the gender on their DEERS marker, and there is a specific process to be followed and documented for the DEERS marker to be changed. Reminder in this uncertain time, I always address soldiers by name and rank, or “warrior” if referring to them in 3rd person.
Good luck, stay strong, and soldier on!!!
I do not understand “misgendering”. SM’s are the gender on their DEERS marker, and there is a specific process to be followed and documented for the DEERS marker to be changed. Reminder in this uncertain time, I always address soldiers by name and rank, or “warrior” if referring to them in 3rd person.
Good luck, stay strong, and soldier on!!!
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If this is the actual case then that is total bullshit. As president of those boards as well as members, those questions. "gotcha or not" should have been presented and vetted by the president and members. That is not even a gotcha answer. A gotcha answer example would be how much is a first class postage stamp knowing that it was raised a day or two earlier. Not sure if that's IG material but good luck.
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Yes,go to the I.G. The moron who disapproved your promotion because of the weird assholes running smoke should at the least have his sorry ass whipped, this woke bullshit should have never gotten into the army nut what do you expect with a recruiting video of a female stating, “ I have two moms!.
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Defend yourself; take the time to learn your military code of conducts and guidelines yourself. Then when you speak, you'll speak with authority and no one will BS you. You'll know what legal ground you have to stand on and use it, go right up your chain of command. If someone gets in your way and the chain of command go around them and even go to the top and let it work down. Don't ask, tell them with knowledge and facts what they're going to do and not going to do. You got to decide whether you're going to be a follower of others or a leader to yourself. Don't be looking down because there's no discharge on the ground nor help to get up, you got to do that yourself. You can do it buddy, get-r-done!
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