Can I be denied receiving a 'Go' for a promotion board if I accidentally use gender pronouns? Should I get the IG involved?

What ever you do you might want to rethink your thoughts, things are going to change in the military, and like it or not you’re going to become part of that change, the last thing you want to do is start something you can’t win.

There is the right way, the wrong way and the Army way! In actuality in the Army no one cares what you believe ! You follow the regs! You uphold your oath!

Lol, had to be a 35N. For those not keeping track- Chelsea/Bradly Manning was a 35N. But to answer the question, obviously, if everything went exactly as you say than that is an offense worth appeal.

If you’re trying to get me to believe that, you did everything else 100%, correct, and you’re only transgression was saying “the soldier” instead of “him”- forgive me, but I have a very hard time believing that.

But I concede that you may believe it. I was a 35P and I worked closely with N’s my entire career. Usually some of the most analytically, intelligent people you can find in the military, and also many who probably shouldn’t be in the military.

This is not even the 9363rd iteration I’ve heard of some thing like this with this MOS.

Use it as a teaching point as we were referring to soldiers as soldiers long before the Alphabet people gender issue.

The CSM’s personal connection to Transgender makes it especially a no win situation!

Be careful talking about it in the unit as you will no doubt be re-boarded by the current chain of command!
RLTW

You got passed on a promotion over this? Seeing the date-stamp on this, I hope you got your promotion, because the stated reason for the No-Go is absolute garbage.

1st Off , let me say sorry for the long rant,
2nd , I am glade I AM Retired,
3rd, this should not even be a Issue in the Military Service,
4th, there are only Two Genders, Male & Female end of Story! this is a SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Ask any Scientist , there are only XX & XY , NOTHING IN BETWEN!
I FEEL LIKE I LIVING IN A UPSIDE DOWN WORLD, OR AS SOMEONE ONCE SAID BIZARRO WORLD!
Last, but not least,
YES! I WOULD APPEAL OR GET IG INVOLVED
Remember start at lowest level, to resolve this issue, and work your way up, do not go straight to the TOP . if you go straight to nuclear option, this will kill your case.

If I was still in the Military Service,
on Active Duty and was Asked this INSAIN QUESTION, YES this is a INSAIN QUESTION!
I would have said, something like this,
we do not Address are fellow Service Members by there Preferred Pro Nouns,
This goes against Good Order & Discipline.

No where in any of the Military service manual that I have Read and reviewed , does it say I should Stop and ask any Junior/ Senior Military Personal there Preferred Pronouns.
even if they Request it.
It is Insane, Unprofessional, & disrespectful towards my fellow service members.
MOST IMPORTANTLY IT HURTS GOOD ORDER & DISCIPLINE.

I would never tell my fellow Junior Service members to call me by my First name , that Also would be Insane.
so why would I use preferred pronouns?
Even if requested by the member, it goes Against Good Order & Discipline. not to mention it Violates other Service Members 1st Amendment Rights, to there FREEDOM OF SPEECH, & RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
NO WHERE DOES IT REQUIRE I OR ANYONE ELES ACCEPT SOMEONE MENTAL INSAINITY!

These Service Members who are Suffering from GENDER DYSPHORIA ARE DEMANDING THERE FELLOW SERVICE MEMBERS ACCEPT THERE INSAINTY !
that in itself is INSAIN !
By demanding there fellow service members use there preferred pronouns, they are telling there fellow Service Members there God Given Constitutional rights & Freedoms no loner matter!

Lets not forget to mention, that these preferred Pronouns destroys proper GRAMMER .

I would tell the board, IN ORDER TO Maintain Good Order & Discipline all service members will be addressed by there Rank and last name.
as per the Uniform code and Regulations this tell us how to address are fellow service members
( I would double check, to see if it has been changed .)

When I Was on active Duty, we always address are fellow Service member by there RANK & LAST NAME .

If They Wanted a more detailed answer
after you restate, that All Active Duty Service Members are address by there Rank and Last Name. end of story.
I would point out, that No one in todays Military cares if the fellow service Member, they are working with, is a Male, Female, Gay, or wishes to be the Opposite Gender, or even a cat.

The one thing every service member does care about,
is, that there fellow Service Member are not Insane, or unable to carry out there job.

In my Humble Opinion , if you believe you can change your Gender you are Mentally insane, you have a mental disorder , called Gender Dysphoria.

Back to the topic at hand, the only thing that any service member cares about, is that we have each other back, & there Fellow Service Members knows there Job.
that the Service member Has Pride in Uniform, Service Member will have Pride in Self, Military Service & in being the best they can be.

if asked why is it important to have Pride in your Uniform appearance, the Answer is simple,
when a service member has Pride in Uniform Appearance, they have Pride in themselves, Pride in Military Service, Pride in doing there Job. it all Starts with the Uniform.

if asked, What do you see, as your Responsibility if given the promotion to E-5, ?
TELL THEM THE TRUTH,
It Will be your job to ensure everyone under your care, has Pride in Uniform, Self Service, & Job.

your Job is to Mentor, Teach , to ensue each Service Member under your care can & will do there Job knows the job above them and below them, mission success may depend on it
they are to know everything about the job, they are the Expert
By MENTORING Junior member, YOU ARE ENSURING THEY HAVE A SUCCEFUL MILITARY CAREER.

YOUR Job is to ensure, Help & encourage the junior members in furthering there education , so the Junior Members can become the Best they can be.
Remember it is easy to help the Go getter,
Also, Remember it your job to mentor the kid that is Struggling, to help the service member to find his way ,
to help member to have Pride in Uniform , Pride in service & Pride in Job.
to ensue the Member can become Successful in there Military Service.

if the Member cannot or will not Perform there Job, it will be your Job to Motivate, Encourage, Teach those under your command & care, to have Pride in service & in there Job.
one of the hardest things I found was when do you throw in the towel, on your fellow junior member, who is under your leadership.
for me, it was when I realized they were a danger not only to themselves but to others.

I ALSO WOULD HAVE INFOUMED THE BOARD, The Military Service does not see Males, Females or Preferred PRONOUNS, WE JUST HAVE Service Members , all Service Members are address by there Rank & Last Name.

For example when Giving the Greeting of the day, to a Senior or Junior enlisted Personal, I do not ask there Preferred pronoun, we simply say Good Morning Major or Good Afternoon Sergeant Major. etc

As Started Early, The Military Service, only has, Service Members, we have Privates, Private 1st Class , Corporal, Sergeant, Staff Sergeant, Airmen, Airman First Class, Seaman Apprentice, Etc say last name.

the healthcare service Members have it much more difficult , Healthcare Service members must know the members Gender at Birth, in order to provide the proper healthcare. for example a MAN who is PRETENDING TO BE FEMALE, CANNOT BE TREATED FOR A MISCARRIAGE, it is Physically IMPOSSABLE! a women Pretending to be Male can be treated for a Miscarriage.

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When I went to my E-5 Promotion Board, in the previous century, I had already gotten into the habit of saying "I would" and relating the questions of "What If" or "What Should" to the actions I would take.
My issue was that the Army had just came out with the Minuteman Pin for National Guard Soldiers. I was the last one in for the Soldier of the Quarter Board and was asked by a MSG about it. I responded that I was unsure but would find out and get back to him. Five minutes later I was the first one in front of the same board for E-5 Promotion. I was asked again by the same MSG and could only give the same answer. This was the difficulty before the internet.

I can't believe that you would have failed a Board for this reason; there must have been something else. A person's sexual orientation does not determine whether or not they would make a good Soldier, and I hope that a Board member would not be so ignorant to chance a possible IG investigation because of what some would consider a language issue. Did your supervisor not go over ways to possibly address the Board questions? Has the language issue been taught to your and your fellow soldiers as a way to address others? Seems like this would be something addressed if it were truly an issue in the Military.

Yes. Get the IG involved. Do it now.

I am personally sorry it has come to this. In effect, your Sponsor imposed political beliefs on you in order to penalize your promotion. If I could, then I would, on behalf of the entire US Armed Forces, apologize.