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According to federal regs... a Veteran is considered to be anyone who has served 180 days or more on Active Duty outside of training purposes. Getting out of bootcamp alive and completion of initial MOS training does not make one a veteran. Once again, 180 days of service, outside of training puposes, is prerequisite for veteran status/consideration. 38 U.S.C. 4215(a) any questions feel free to contact me @ [login to see] x227
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SFC Robert Walton
The terms and regulations have changed VA. org is a good place to look. Now the rule i quoted answers your question however i made a typing error which has since been edited. Not sure how you can spend 1 Day in combat with out completing training. The rule is 180 days or completion of training. So if you complete Basic and AIT you have completed training that makes you a vet. however does not get you a combat vet. status 24hrs. in Combat Zone makes you a Combat Vet. So many changes have went through in the regulation that make it almost imposable to call a shot on who is or is not a VET these days if your not sure take your discharge paperwork to a Veterans Services Officer every county generally has one and let them check for you the Visit is free.
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SSG Cecil Stroud Jr.
DON’T ARGUE WITH STUPID. You have to complete Basic, your AIT or A-School depending on your branch of service. If someone injures themselves in training that is no fault of their own. The problem is the whiny bitches that are excuse factories. Someone that completes Basic, AIT and successfully attends their drills, call ups and Annual Training for 6 years is a veteran. If a NGB-22 has title 10 or title 32 service on it you should treat it as a federal document. Call the whiner out in front of others and walk away. Entry Level Separations are nothing more than Attention Whores.
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SSG James N.
SFC Robert Walton - so tell us all how Barain, and Kuwait, and Qatar where all they do is drink beer and play XBox count as COMBAT DEPLOYMET on paper. I'll discount that shit really quick becuase there is no real threat of indirect or direct conflict
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SFC Robert Walton
@SSG James N. does not matter if you approve or not, I does however matter what the AR's say in Writing Sorry the Regulations over ride what the individual thinks.
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I have a somewhat harsher view of this than some. Ill liken this to trying out for the (insert sport) team. Basic training and ait are the tryouts for the army, as you are attempting to prove you have what it takes to get a spot on the team. If you go through training and blow out your knee halfway through, you didn't make the cut, whatever... Then you can't still tell people you were a player. The army is not much different.
I consider veterans as people who have served and contributed to the overall defense of this nation in a uniformed military service. In training, you are learning to fill that role, but if you don't finish training, and don't contribute to the force as a service member, that I would say you don't qualify to be referred to as a Veteran.
I consider veterans as people who have served and contributed to the overall defense of this nation in a uniformed military service. In training, you are learning to fill that role, but if you don't finish training, and don't contribute to the force as a service member, that I would say you don't qualify to be referred to as a Veteran.
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SFC Robert Walton
PVT Jolene Bjerk (Orlowski) - Just Signing the paper work does not make you a Vet. My Nephew Signed the paperwork and never served one day because he could not lose enough weight to go to Basic Training. NOT A VET. What it says on the DD-214 is what you are NOT what is perceived, I notice on your profile you served just short of a Year. From what you have described and your time in service that makes you a medical discharge of general discharge. Check your DD-214 and take it with you and go see your local VSO (Veterans Service Officer) it is free they will tell you what your title and or status is.
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CPO Clifford Henry
Perfect analogy, sir. I was trying to come up with a well reasoned response, without being an ass. You said it all.
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MSgt Jeff Bailey
And this is why you are not the arbiter of who is defined as a vet. There are many whose "training" takes a year or more to complete. I served 22 years on active duty and my "training" wasn't considered complete till after I'd served for about 18 months. My son's military training took more than 2 years.
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SFC Robert Walton
CPT (Join to see) - Let us not forget many people call themselves RETIRED when they are not they are MEDICALLY RETIRED (no longer able to complete your contract.)
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To every member that responded thank you for your time and effort to help. And thank you for your service to everyone in uniform past and present. I give my support when I can and I've got your back always. I will stop calling myself a vet, but like I said I support everyone 100%. Gog bless.
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PFC Amy Denys Dees - I was in 40th AG reception for over 2 months from an injury, recycled, continued OSUT, injured again, Army was going to send me on leave to heal, I said hell no, healed graduated OSUT, and went on to my unit (unjury still bothers me). To me, it sounds like you did not want to adapt to Army Training. My drills at the time probably thought I was one of you guys, that could not adapt, complained, played victim, and wanted to get out the training. I wanted to be in the Army so I adapted. You make it sound like it was miserable. It probably was, but if you cant adapt, then its not for you.
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SFC Robert Walton
Bottom line is what does your DD-214 say and go see your Local Veterans Service Officer..... the Visit is free and they will assist you with claims to the VA your status or title on an on. Does not matter what you think the Rules apply so see the people that are trained to give you the information for free. To Much complaining and not enough of following the rules.
Now I will say that a few things stated on here stunk bad. Lets not over state the facts. Rules are Rules and if you feel your entitled to call your self a Veteran that may not be accurate.
Now I will say that a few things stated on here stunk bad. Lets not over state the facts. Rules are Rules and if you feel your entitled to call your self a Veteran that may not be accurate.
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SFC Robert Walton
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Get him to take his DD214 to the local VSO Veterans Services Officer and they can tell him his status. DD214 its self tells very little but the information on it explains the truth.
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Capt Jessica Murray
It’s a good man who can take criticism and keep their honesty about them. You may not be a vet, but thanks for asking real vets and respecting their response. There’s a lot of courage in that.
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