Posted on Mar 16, 2021
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I passed the board recently and now im being told i may have to be a CPL until i go to BLC or until i get back from ranger school. I dont want to take responsibility as a team leader and still get paid as a SPC. Can i deny a 4187 ?
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CPL Eric Bedford
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You do realize the the Army is the only military branch which a specialist rank. All the others E4 is a junior NCO rank. When I was in the Army I served in SSG position as a Specialist. The cutoff scores for my MOS was Maxed out for years. When I got my hard stripes (Corporal) it made a world of difference in my work. If you’ve been to the board and were recommended for promotion you should embrace those hard stripes. It is a great opportunity to further your development as a leader.
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SSG Jimmy Cernich
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Just take it,in my day it showed they want you to be a leader now.
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SSG Ray Elliott
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If you take the leadership role now, it will help you on promotions in the future. Take the responsibility and prove your worth, while requesting to go to BLC ASAP!! Who knows by taking the extra responsibility it could lead to a letter of commendation or other award that will look good in your file for future promotions.
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GySgt Charles O'Connell
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Sure, go ahead and make the request, though I don’t think labelling yourself a dumbass is a smart move. You were selected for promotion based on your current and potential ability, highlighting to your command that your ability to lead is based on how much you’re paid.... well, like I said not a smart career move.
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MSG Frederick Otero
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Yes but prepare for flack, In the United States Army it is up or out. If your not confident in your leadership skills go to BLC if you still do not think or do not want a leadership position then you might think about another line of work. Good luck which ever way you go and thanks for your service.
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CPL Mike Glasgow
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I was a Corporal in the 59th Ord Brigade. We worked on the HAWK missile system. I was a natural. I soaked up everything my SFC did. I was damn good at my job. even better than the SSG's. It was a dying MOS which I didn't know when I enlisted. It was being replaced by the Patriot. So when the SFC and SSG's got reassigned they gave me the stripes to carry on to the end. I was more than proud to wear them and more than proud to have been their choice. But to be honest the best reward is the respect I immediately was granted from my coworkers. They knew it was the right choice. I know that sounds kinda arrogant but I don't mean it that way. Don't turn down a promotion that will better your career. People know what those stripes mean. That you got them for a reason. Above you're peers. Not just because a slot came open and you had the points. At least that's the way I see it. Take the stripes, pony up and take on the responsibility. The way you asked the question leads me to believe you couldn't handle being a leader so give the stripes to someone who can and will be honored to wear them as I was. I don't know you and apologize I hurt your feelings. All the best
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CPL Mike Glasgow
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After thinking about this for a few days, I can't believe this was a real question, and I commented on it. That's all for me on this.
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SGT Medic
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What you CAN do is request to be slotted for the grade you serve while you are at the grade you are. This shows up on an ERB. It is used later down the line. You will wish you would have done this. It all comes out in the wash bud. Take the rank and do your job. Have your erb adjusted for the grade and time via slotting. I did it. It is a resume builder.
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1SG Rick Seekman
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Maybe ranger school will square your ass away??
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SPC Chet Jr.
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What's wrong with waiting? You spoiled kids want everything right now and have it your way. There are military protocols that have served members well for hundreds of years and you're upset because you want to be called sarge. Turn it down! You'll never make it past E5 and you can be called sarge until they RIF you. What are the recruiters doing these days?
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SP5 Christopher Brock
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When I was deployed to Afghanistan I was a SGT working as a Battle Captain, I didn’t complain or ask for money or a promotion I accepted it and did my job to the highest level and I did for 5 months, I also knew that everything I learned i could put in my Toolbox and use it when I needed, Soldier up and become a leader
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