Posted on Mar 16, 2021
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I passed the board recently and now im being told i may have to be a CPL until i go to BLC or until i get back from ranger school. I dont want to take responsibility as a team leader and still get paid as a SPC. Can i deny a 4187 ?
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SGT Bobby Ewing
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I was a Cpl. for awhile before I got my E-5 promotion and I loved it because I learned a lot of things to get me ready to take over as a squad leader. I am not positive, but I do believe new Army regs state you must be a CPL before you can be promoted to SGT. So embrace the suck as they say and think of it as a learning opportunity. Otherwise, maybe your not ready to take that leadership position after all!
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LCpl Michael Cappello
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This is an OLD question. I can see from the Sgt's stripes that this one found the way. Out damn standing. I hope you can look back at this question and shake your head over how "young and dumb" you were. I also hope you will have the honor to use that experience as an example when some other "young" trooper needs to un-cluster themselves. Way to go Sarge.
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SPC Paul Stevenson
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Sheesh, you have to show Leadership skills in order to get leadership pay. even as an sp4 in some cases, you ARE the one in a leadership position. take the step or you may find you won't get the chance again.
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CPL David Widding
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Fortunate you we told ahead of time in the 80's you were a fireteam leader as a E3 for 6 months before being prompted. I believe almost everyone did the job for months before getting promoted and the pay came later
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CPT Jim Lee
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Josh.. ask yourself if you are truly a leader. If you are, advance your career expeditiously. If you are not, deny the 4187 and separate at ETS.
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SP5 David Cox
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Am I missing something? Aren't both SPC and CPL E4s? Isn't the pay the same?
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1LT Christopher Jamison
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I spent my second year as a 2LT as a battalion S4. Sometimes you gotta step up and do the work. You’ll get much more respect if you take the job and do the work than if you refuse the promotion to get out of it. Just my .02
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SGT John Prolo
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Hahaha...this new Army is a Joke! At least he's not wearing a bra or Transitioning into a SHIM.
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SFC John Fourquet
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If you do not want leadership responsibility, why did you go before a promotion board? Seems like you you care more about the money than than the responsibility of leadership. Maybe your chain of command should remove you from the promotion list.
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SrA Roderick Nix
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Are you stupid or something? Little advice. Take whatever is asked (required) of you. Delete this post because if your seniors are reading this and they probably are, you’ll never be anything but a SP4. Soldier tf up and carry on
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