Posted on Apr 25, 2019
Can I legally get my motorcycle towed to my house from the DFAC?
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So my registration was out and I was going to get it updated after work. My 1sgt walks buy sees the tag is expired and says you cant drive your motorcycle. I get a counseling saying I can't drive my motorcycle but it mentions nothing about towing it. So I asked to get it towed home mind you it's in the dfac parking lot in the open. Can I legally get my motorcycle towed to my house is my chain of command responsible if it gets stolen because they said to leave it there unsecured and what can I do to get my motorcycle back to me at home so its secured?
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Well, your 1SG was correct in telling you that you can't operate your motorcycle with expired tags. If nothing was mentioned that you can't tow it, then get it towed. As for your CoC possibly responsible if stolen......would they be responsible if it was stolen from the DFAC even if it had current and valid tags? What about if it was stolen from your house? Not sure how your CoC can be responsible if it's stolen. Unsecured? You lock it, don't you? You have the only key to unlock it? Now, if you consider it just sitting there as unsecured, then that same logic would apply when it sits at your house. If it can be locked to prevent operation but YOU choose not to lock it, then who's fault would it be if it was stolen? Picking up what I'm putting down?
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MSG (Join to see)
PFC (Join to see) - Then this is the COA I suggest you present to your CoC/CoS: Inform them that until you get the injection sticker, you cannot get the motorcycle registered with valid tags. And that you cannot get the injection sticker without taking the motorcycle to the mechanic. Present them with a few COAs (Commands and NCOs like to hear solutions from the Soldiers when they present problems): A) You will pay for the tow at your own expense (no option) to/from base to the mechanic and will provide picture and/or video confirmation that the bike is on the tow truck before departure and arrival to ; B) You can have a friend with a big enough truck transport it for you at a cheaper expense and request that an NCO from your Section accompany you to ensure that no illegal operations of the motorcycle will take place.
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PFC (Join to see)
MSG (Join to see) finally a good answer the u sergeant........ side note my 1sgt is more likely mad at me cuz I got his car towed cuz it was parked in motorcycle parking but thanks that was a answer I was looking for
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PFC (Join to see) - No worries. It's one thing to bring problems to the CoC. It's another when you bring problems and possible solutions to them.
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SPC Michael Dillon
PFC (Join to see) That sounds like a dickmove. You had his car towed You might as well drive your motorcycle home. You got nothing coming.
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Yes, you can get it towed and not be in any trouble. Just make sure that you are not driving or riding it until after you get the new tags for it.
No, you chain of command is not responsible, even a little bit, if your bike gets stolen. It is your property and you are the only one responsible for making sure that it is secured properly. Note I said secured properly. Meaning that it is locked up, chained up. Your command said nothing about leaving it there. They said you could not ride it.
The cheap way to deal with this is to lock it up, get a buddy to take you by to get your tag, then take you to dfac and your bike, apply the proper tag/decal and then you are good to go. Towing will cost you minimum $75. It is not likely that anyone will tow it from dfac for at least a few days.
No, you chain of command is not responsible, even a little bit, if your bike gets stolen. It is your property and you are the only one responsible for making sure that it is secured properly. Note I said secured properly. Meaning that it is locked up, chained up. Your command said nothing about leaving it there. They said you could not ride it.
The cheap way to deal with this is to lock it up, get a buddy to take you by to get your tag, then take you to dfac and your bike, apply the proper tag/decal and then you are good to go. Towing will cost you minimum $75. It is not likely that anyone will tow it from dfac for at least a few days.
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PFC (Join to see)
They claim I cant even get it towed even though it's not in the counseling they gave me they think I will end up riding it if i do.
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SSG Brian G.
PFC (Join to see) - Then you go over your First Sergeants head. It's your vehicle and point blank the only way that they can stop the vehicle from getting towed is if the Military Police or the Post command authority say no. You simply show the MP's the proof that you own the bike and are towing it to have repairs done ie injection sticker, at a licensed mechanic and that is all there is to it. Your First Sergeant has jack all to say about it.
If he wants to press the issue you find a buddy or someone you REALLY, I mean REALLY trust and sign the vehicle over to them and THEY can tow it, again without jack all that the First Sergeant can say or do about it. You get the necessary sticker, apply it, get the tags and then your buddy signs it back over to you all 100% legal.
If he wants to press the issue you find a buddy or someone you REALLY, I mean REALLY trust and sign the vehicle over to them and THEY can tow it, again without jack all that the First Sergeant can say or do about it. You get the necessary sticker, apply it, get the tags and then your buddy signs it back over to you all 100% legal.
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SP5 Peter Keane
SSG Brian G. - He is in an MP unit as a cook. Pretty sure that the 1SG has jack all to say about it.
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SSG Brian G.
SP5 Peter Keane - Doesn't matter what the unit is or the MOS of the First Sergeant. The law prevails whether that 1sg is pissed about it or not. Unit gave the kid a counseling statement in which it was said explicitly that he could not do certain things. As it is his property, he can have it towed or dispose of it as he sees fit. He just cannot operate it until his tags are up to date, to include the injection sticker. On that, the 1sg has jack all to say on.
He could sign the title over to another person and the 1sg can't do or say squat about it. He can have it towed and again 1st has jack all to say about it. If he tries then he puts himself in legal hot water and pissed or not, he knows this or should.
He could sign the title over to another person and the 1sg can't do or say squat about it. He can have it towed and again 1st has jack all to say about it. If he tries then he puts himself in legal hot water and pissed or not, he knows this or should.
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