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UPDATE 02/12/2021

WOW! This thread really blew up! And people are still commenting (some ruthless) for the past 5 years, so an official update and hopefully this thread dies down, like, completely.

I finally obtained an IST after a year of trying. State of Indiana never sent my paperwork to Missouri, so I had to call IG to figure out what was going on (that's how I found out that Indiana never sent my paperwork - I wasn't showing up on Missouris' roster, and Indiana wasn't showing me on theirs either, just that I had been discharged from Indiana NG). 3 weeks after the phone call, I was officially in the Missouri ARNG. I drilled faithfully for the remaining 4-5 years, and ETS'd in February 2020. I also had a hysterectomy that same month, and I do feel much better now. The previous November I had my miracle baby, as you can read in the update following this one. He is now 15 months old, and my pride and joy.

To clear the air a bit: No, I was NOT receiving pay while I was AWOL - that comment meant I didn't want to lose the money I COULD BE EARNING while drilling faithfully.

I plead my case to my Commander, 1SG, PS and new SL (he was team leader before this stupid mishap). The NCO that told me I was being discharge DID own up to his mistake. A case of mistaken identity (there was another girl in the unit that it was meant for - we looked a lot alike. A unit of that size, I can understand the mistake, however, I guess I should have stated who I was and maybe all of this wouldn't have happened). Also with that being said, I was never previously discharged before, so I didn't know about the paperwork needing to be signed. ALSO with that note, I still haven't received anything about my recent discharge/ETS as of yet, and it has been a year.

Since I had paperwork with me upon my return, it helped my case. Everything from the miscarriage until my doctors release. After the miscarriage, I did supply my unit with a doctors note - that must have been lost in a pile and never submitted, therefore my unit couldn't process an "in-house medical leave" as some could call it, profile, whatever the case. My then Squad leader didn't even pass on the message of my being in the hospital after my miscarriage, as it was the Friday before drill. One would think he would have the brain capacity to do so - no.

I had a very large fibroid on my uterus. I lost my baby when I was 14 weeks pregnant, but registering as I was almost 20 weeks pregnant. 2 weeks prior to the miscarriage, the tumor, as I called it, and the baby were fighting each other for survival. For those who don't understand fibroids, it's basically a mass of cells (benign, non cancerous) that survives off of blood flow, and so does a baby/fetus. The tumor was dying, and so it was trying to fight to survive. It caused excruciating pain, almost paralyzing pain, and honestly, the way Indianas' healthcare system is set up, I couldn't receive the treatment I needed. I had already known about the fibroid a good 3 years prior to this, and upon being assigned a General MD (until 36 weeks pregnant, then the pregnant woman gets referred to an OB/GYN for the remainder of her pregnancy - no choosing a doctor in this instance), but no one was listening to me when I stated that I would be high risk until it was too late. Due to this nature, my uterus wasn't shrinking like a normal one would - prolonging my healing. I did communicate with my SL during this time, he would say "Just keep me posted", not knowing he wasn't passing the message on. Finally I received release paperwork from my doctor, and I immediately went straight to my unit to give them said paperwork, and that is when the NCO told me the "bad news". I was being discharged. So, what I'm curious about, is why you all say I should have given them my phone number or address after being told about the "discharge"? In my mind, I was getting out. No need for future correspondence. Thank god for Facebook, huh? A non-acceptable form of communication really did work out in the end. I honestly don't know why it took the new SL to get ahold of me, I still wonder to this day, but I'm honestly not going to lose sleep over it.

Times were getting tough for us, my then boyfriend/now Husband relocating for work, and us not knowing anyone, no babysitter for the older kids caused us to move to Missouri so we could be with my aging father and take care of him/him take care of us kind of deal. I didn't think giving my old unit my new forwarding address or phone number mattered, as I "thought" I was being discharged. However, if all that didn't happen, I do believe I would still be in that wretched state (can you guys tell I despise Indiana? I was born there, moved her to Missouri in 1996, and moved to Indiana to be close to my biological dad after my mom passed in 2013, AND hopefully get free of my abusive ex-husband (yes, it worked), where I met my current husband). Ironically, 2 weeks prior to our move to Indiana, I ran into my PS at the restaurant I worked at, and he didn't even seem to know about my miscarriage (which should have thrown flags up by his confused look) and he DID come back for me once he realized I was still on their roster, however we had already moved at that time. So yes, he did try.

SOOO... I think that sums it up.

PLEASE, for all things holy, do not respond to this thread.. It is very old, and it gets tiring repeating myself to new comments (which, hopefully with this update being first on the list, you guys won't need to comment).

Was I a crappy soldier? I don't think so. I always did what was asked of me, within reason. Did I stop caring after being AWOL for a year and coming back? Yes. I know I probably didn't "deserve" respect, perse as far what had happened, but there should be a line as to how to treat a soldier no matter what their APFT score is, their height/weight, etc. Some of the leadership in that unit really sucked, and some of those leaders treated others like shite no matter their stance in the unit....

For instance: a PV2 that never had a passing PT test was able to be team leader before a SPC. Doesn't make sense, does it? I'm not sure what the term is... Hazing, maybe? Bullying definitely. Belittling in front of others, etc. that happened quite a bit. Thats not professionalism. So yes, I stopped caring. Because I was the target. From my own squad leader. No matter what had happened, I didn't deserve that. I could have easily taken a dishonorable being so many states away, but I didn't. I went back and tried my hardest to be a good soldier, 12 hour drive one way. There was even a time that I VOLUNTEERED to be on door guard duty for someone so s/he could use the latrine and get something to eat, to NOT be released the entire day and watching all the other platoons and companies of the Battalion be released to go home. No relief. I got a phone call when I was on my way home asking where I was at, and that "You weren't relieved of your duties, you need to come back" My response? "We were released" to be told "No, the unit was released. You were not." Shit ass unit. Sorry for my language. Once I got my IST I never looked back. Even my new unit had to un-f*ck my paperwork that was sent over. The new unit treated me like I was family, like a unit should (IMHO).

Thank you all for reading the new update. Things are going very well for me. So well in fact, that an injury I sustained in BCT/AIT 14 years ago is now being reviewed for VA Disability. Tinnitus was approved, just waiting on the others.



UPDATE 11/15

Since so many people have been responding to this 3 year old thread, and not really reading updated comments, here is an official update:

So, when I returned to my old unit, I have medical documentation, and also provided insight on the miscarriage and baby as well. He would’ve been born with Trisomy 13, which also gives a short life span as well, so in my eyes the miscarriage is kind of a blessing. My commander and 1SG were informed of what happened, made copies of my medical documents, and asked what I wanted. I requested to stay in (since I was originally looking at a hardship discharge due to the pregnancy in the first place, since I was no longer pregnancy and physically/mentally stable, I requested to stay in). At this time, I had an actual discharge packet at state for being unsat, and my CO informed me that if she could pull it then she will, but if not then it would go through and I would receive a general discharge. The following Monday I received an email stating that she successfully pulled the packet.

From then on (that is January 2016) until August, I continued to drive 12 hours one way to drill; I had to miss in July due to family reasons, but I’m August I went up early to make up the July drill. When I was an hour away, I called to make sure someone would be there, so I could sleep in the armory. At this time, I was asked if I wanted to do an IST, I said yes. I was also informed that my July drill had been excused (more non communication from my CoC- go figure). That following September, I was drilling with a new unit in my current HOR state. That unit was scheduled to deploy to Cuba the following summer. I wanted to go. However, my transfer wasn’t complete at that time, come to find out, Indiana has discharged me from their records (so Missouri could pick me up), but never sent the paperwork. From July until September 2017, I was in Limbo - not actively drilling because “I didn’t exist” in ANY states records. I called IG, and within 3 weeks I was on the roster to a different unit (the one I was trying to deploy with had already left, so I found another unit). Currently still in said unit, and on good drilling status.

Since I couldn’t go to Cuba in 2017, there was another unit scheduled to deploy May of this year to Kuwait. I wanted to go as well. And my name was actually on the roster to deploy.

Why didn’t I?

I found out I was pregnant in february; and on 11/3 I delivered a healthy, beautiful baby boy. My miracle finally happened! I had a rough beginning of pregnancy, when I was 6 weeks I went to the ER due to severe cramping (thought I was having a miscarriage again); doctor said it was a blighted ovum (Empty sac) because my HCG/PH levels weren’t as high as they should’ve been. So I went home, waiting to pass the fetus. A week went by, and still nothing.

Come to find out, I was a week behind. So instead of being 6 weeks at that time, I was actually 5 weeks. I still have the tumor, and in the spring time everything will be taken out.

And yes, the fibroid has and still is registering me as pregnant, by the measurement guide. When I was pregnant, I started out measuring at 12 weeks; towards the end I was only a week ahead (measuring).

No, I was not receiving pay while I was absent, and the “warrant” for my arrest was a ploy to get me back, which he didn’t have to threaten with and lie about. I would’ve been back to drill that May if they had informed me of my actual status; but honestly, why would I keep in communication with a unit that is discharging me, and telling me I no longer have to show up? In my eyes, I was done. That unit wasn’t my favorite, so I’m not gonna go back and talk to people like they were my teachers from High School, post graduation.

I had a miscarriage last January, and by not healing quick enough my former Readiness NCO told me that I was being discharged (In April). This past December, My "new" squad leader had gotten ahold of me via Facebook and let me know what was going on, if I didn't show up then I was going to be arrested, et cetera.

What I don't understand, is why didn't my platoon sergeant tell me that I was still on the roster when I saw him in August? I have moved two states away since then, and now I have to travel 12+hours to go to drill.

I need help, I don't know what to do, say, et cetera. I'm in the National Guard, and I was told long ago that article 15 can't be given to National Guard soldiers due to just being one weekend a month. Honestly, I'm scared. I waited a long time to get E4, and I don't want to lose it, nor my pay because I'm hurting as it is.

Any questions, just ask. But I really need advice. I plan on showing up for drill, and I don't want to be discharged, but a part of me thinks this is a set up to arrest me, which apparently there is a warrant for my arrest, and I don't know how to look that up either.

Thankyou.
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OOOHH BOY. Talk about a case study in crummy leadership.
I sincerely wish you well after what must have been a tough loss. I can't even imagine what that was like. Now let's peel the onion.

First, you are doing the right thing by going to drill. You are your own best advocate.

Second, telling you that you will be separated is very different from being separated. There is an official notification that gets sent to you by official, certified mail informing you of your commander's intent and apprising you of your rights. If that didn't happen, then your UNSAT packet went nowhere.

Third, while you can't be issued an Article 15 unless you were on Title 10 orders, more than likely your unit had an AT that you didn't go to, and missing that can bring punitive action. The commander could also reduce you administratively. Once again, going there and explaining the situation will get you far.

Fourth, if you want to continue to serve, you should pursue a unit to unit transfer to somewhere closer to home.

Now, as a senior NCO, I have a lot of red-butt about this.
Your unit is pretty jacked up for neither communicating with you nor following through on an UNSAT discharge. Chances are, their ineptitude will work in your favor, but it is still pretty chewed up.

You are definitely not in the right either. You are obligated to inform your unit you had moved, that you were pregnant, and that the pregnancy ended. At least some of that doesn't look like it happened.

Now you have a chance to turn the page and get back on track.
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CSM Jim Corrin
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Right on target, 1SG
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PV2 Duane Schlender
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Even as an E2, I would have done exactly what is stated above here. I can not imagine anyone NOT covering their butt and making sure everything is on the level. Crossing every T, dotting every I. To not do so, in my opinion, furthers and advances the above issues.
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SGT James (Mike) White
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Great advise I am not sure why you had not been communicating with your 1st Sargent on your absence but I would recommend you follow the above advise. Best wishes on your recovery.
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Good advice on a "screwed-up situation", that should have been avoided with some good leadership.
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As a human, I am immensely sorry to hear of your loss. You have my full sympathy.

As a Chief/SNCO, I feel as I do not know all the facts here. One statement is puzzling me. "I waited a long time to get E4, and I don't want to lose it, nor my pay because I'm hurting as it is..." Didn't you already resign to the fact that you lost both of these by not showing up for a year? If you hadn't followed up on formal discharge paperwork nor assured your own attendance, these things appear to be low priority to you anyway.
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PV2 Duane Schlender
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That does seem to be the case.... spot on facts.
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PO2 Kenneth Barker
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looks to me like there was some irresponsibility here on her part, maybe some ignorance too of military practice. I hope, for her sake, that she learns some valuable lessons and continue her military career.
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PO2 Kenneth Barker
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Not PO2. I'm age 79, served aboard USS Constellation (CVA 64) (plankowner) 1961-'64. Honorably discharged as IC2nd class, Vietnam vet.
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SFC Jim Ruether
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I feel the same way, that there is information being withheld or embellished by you. I feel that by voluntarily reading your short bio I am being steered into an outcome or decision that you want or that you need to justify all or most of your actions. I can't believe a Recruiter or Retention NCO or a Section Chief would have stood by while all this was happening. Taking it a step further Company Commander, Unit Commander, Platoon Leaders, Section Leaders.
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I am trying to be sympathetic here, but this is how I see it.

If you have not been discharged, you are still a soldier. It IS your units job to keep track of you, but YOU have an obligation to keep your unit in the loop while you are on the books. You cannot just up and move from the state without letting your unit know. You have been in, what it looks like, for a long time - you should know the rules.

I am sorry for what happened to you outside the Army, but you have been without contact with your unit for a year... I am surprised if they would let you back in.
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SSG Matthew Koehler - I was NG for 8 years. I got a DD 214 when I got out.
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SPC Tim Cook - "I was NG for 8 years. I got a DD 214 when I got out."

As a former AGR HR Specialist, in the ARNG (5.5 years), UNLESS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED, as my service was some years ago, your receipt of a DD 214 was in error. A NGB Form 22 should have been issued. The only folks who get a DD 214 are Active Duty folks - all branches. One exception might be the USAR AGR soldier.
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SFC Barbara Layman -
As a former active duty soldier , Army National Guard, and Army Reservist,I had received all of the of the above separation papers.
However, if you were deployed while serving in the National Guard you would have been a DD-214 upon completion of your deployment,
If you were given a discharge, you should have been issued an actual discharge certificate. I wish you well and hope that your situation has been resolved.
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SFC Barbara Layman
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SGT David Schrader - Nothing to be resolved. you missed an important point in my remarks "... UNLESS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED, as my service was some years ago, ..."
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Can I receive an article 15 for unknowingly being AWOL for a year? Help!?
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You should get a Medal for escape and evasion.
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CW3 Susan Burkholder - the way she was treated in a lot of these posts were inappropriate and she came out without too much damage which is good. Hopefully she learned a lesson and who cares that she is thankful due to the pain it would cause her children; it's a fact. Let it go; it's over.
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CW3 (Join to see) - What's to get over? She was also treated extremely nice by a lot and given the benefit of the doubt by a lot of posts. It does speak to her continued immaturity and lack of personal responsibility that she expects sympathy because her kids will suffer. It's all on her and no one else. She could instead ask for guidance on how to straighten her life out and thereby improving her kids lives.
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SGT Mark Shinn - SGT I was promoted to E-5 with the 3RD ID in Ft Stewart in 1996, I was an Active duty NCO long before being a guard baby...lol. The thing is as a NCO it is my job to know regulations or at a minimum I should have a clue what I am talking about.
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Now THAT is funny!!!!
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You can't be serious. You stop showing up for duty with no discharge and claim you were "unknowingly AWOL"? You really need to stop basing your decisions on "I was told" See the JAG and realize that trying to evade responsibility for your actions doesn't help.
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CW3 (Join to see) - As for watching my tongue - I'd like to see you figure out a way to make me! Somewhere along the line you might have heard that respect is earned. Now, rank does get a certain amount of respect to start with, but that can be easily lost if the person proves themselves to be unworthy. I don't know how we got off on the wrong foot, but I don't care to continue this conversation if all we are going to do is trade insults. My initial comment was a joke, which you appear to have taken poorly. My sense of humor can often come across wrong, so I apologize if it came across poorly.
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this whole comment section is ate up
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PFC Kevin Knapp yep. In this situation there will be pain. One way or the other. This soldier has been stealing money. I find it hard to believe that she did not know she was still in the rolls. Even if she was indeed discharged but the money kept coming she should have seen a red flag. I am sure if that was the case and the money was needed it would be tempting to keep quiet and keep the money. Still stealing.

Probably pain on the admin side as to why this soldier was still on the payroll even though they were not drilling.
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SGT Tom Carlson - You might want to read the rest of the comments on this four-year-old thread. She was NOT stealing money; she was NOT being paid.
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I'm going to be a little heavy handed here. You state that you don't want to lose your pay grade and your pay. How in the world could you possibly, remotely assume that you were discharged and were still getting a paycheck? No discharge paperwork? No DD214? No follow up with your leadership? Check just keeps showing up and you keep cashing it? I call "Bullshit". Sorry, I'm not sympathetic to your plight on this one.
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SFC Jeffrey Thivierge, MA, BSN, RN - SFC.......That may be true and I've seen games played with the 1379 based off the commander's discretion. I don't know, however, anyone could not be discharged after their ETS comes up. Maybe my BN S1 is just on the spot as opposed to other Guard units.
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SSG (Join to see) - I went from active duty, to the guard, to the reserves, to USAR AGR.... while on AGR duty, I had a stint as a recruiter. On two separate occasions I had people that I had deployed with not receive discharge orders until almost 1 full year after their ETS. I was trying to put both of these people back into the USAR, but couldn't because they didn't have discharge orders from the USAR. On both occasions, these Veterans were making calls on a weekly basis to push the issue, only to be told, "we're working on it". Finally, I pushed the issue with MY command (USAREC), who made the appropriate phone calls and got discharge orders cut. These were GREAT people that were doing the right thing, only to be cast off as a nuisance. It shouldn't take a SGM and/or LTC to call and make a fuss about something like this, but it did. My point is this... while the original poster may not have done her due diligence in ensuring she was doing the right thing, it does not absolve her NCO support channel and chain of command from their wrongdoings. When a breakdown like this occurs, 9 times out of 10 I'm going to blame the leadership for not following through and ensuring their Soldiers are taken care of properly, especially when the Soldier in question is E-4 or below. Personally, the buck stops with me... if she falls in my platoon, I'm taking the heat. (Don't think for a second that I wouldn't tear her a new ass for being negligent, but I would do my damnedest to prevent her from being subjected to UCMJ action when there was this type of systemic failure.)
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Did you know CSM Gregory O. Craig?
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If she paid you she was legally in the wrong, I was a UA, and you cannot sign anyone's name to the pay roster legally. I cannot say for the guard but in the reserves for regular drill if someone is getting paid and not showing up there should be an investigation.
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What I would like to know is who is still giving you the pay you don't want to lose? Heads will roll if you've been paid that long without making an appearance or attending drill somewhere else.
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Exactly if they try to do a discharge for unsatisfactory. and have been paying her means the 1379 has been falsified there's a readiness NCO and Commander in some hot water
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I was wondering the same!
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SFC Robert Bower
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You don't get paid if you don't go to drill.... There's sign in sheets.. Like I said, I wasted 15 months in the guard. Was a total waste of time. I wish I never got off of active duty for that time. It made my time for SFC take extra long to make the list.. But, I have 26 years ACTIVE duty so it's all good. I don't count Guard time for anything.
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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SFC Robert Bower In the almost 14 years of service, I’ve actually never physically “signed” into drill.
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Article 15s happen all the time in the National Guard. It doesn't necessarily mean you will lose rank. Bring as much evidence as you can and be respectful. Accept responsibility, speak the truth, and take whatever happens as a learning point. I suppose it varies by State, but it seems highly unlikely anybody would want to arrest you just because you missed drill for a while, especially if it seems like you are now doing the responsible thing. You should also seek an interstate transfer so you don't have to commute 12 hours to your unit anymore.
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So, this is slightly confusing. I'm not sure where you got Article 15s don't happen in the Guard, but they do. Crappy leadership, albeit happens, but is no excuse for you signing an enlistment contract. Maternity leave, is just that- leave. You still have an obligation to your initial enlistment. Did you reach out to your team leader, squad leader, platoon sergeant, chief etc...? At a minimum, I'd contact jag and figure out what your options are. They might be able to count that time ING as opposed to being awol, but you'll have to sort that out with your commander.
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CW3 Stephen Mills
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Ok, im not going to get into the weeds of whether you diserve an art 15 or not as nobody here has any idea including me.

But, yes you can get an article 15 in the guard in most states, actually im pretty sure all states, but lets leave it at most.

The title 18 ucmj doesnt apply but most states have their own legislative version thats exactly he same. The state version applies when you are on state duty and the title 18 version applies when you are getting a fed check on fed duty.

An article 15 doesnt have to be a big deal. All it is is a formalized proceeding. It doesnt mean you lose rank.

As far as a warrant. Your commander signs the warrant an can have you locked in the county jail, but only for the duration of the drill. When drill is over they have to let you go.

So here is the advice part. You say you dont want to loose your rank so I imagine you want to stay in the guard, but you have moved two states away.

Go join the guard in the state you live in now, before your old unit gives you an article 15. In fact you dont have to accept an article 15. You also have a right to a military lawyer before accepting one.

Go to a NG recruiter in the state you are in right away. Tell them the situation. Tell them you cant get to your old unit and tell them you want to transfer. Then be sure to show up to drill at your new unit.

Message me of you have any questions.
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SGT (Join to see) -
"Soldiers and airmen in the National Guard of the United States are subject to the UCMJ only if activated in a Federal capacity under Title 10 by an executive order issued by the President. Otherwise, members of the National Guard of the United States are exempt from the UCMJ. However, under Title 32 orders, National Guard soldiers are still subject to their respective state codes of Military justice." directly from UCMJ.us - it only applies under federal activation, as per Article 2. I was at flight school for over a year, on T32, and every ike we had a get together for all the Guardsmen there the leadership (1 Star) reminded us that "while we don't fall under UCMJ while there, don't for a second think that a DUI won't have equal punishment." So yes, in a regular drilling status, one is not subject to UCMJ, but whatever a state equivalent is. Even if it's a mirror image, words still have meanings, and it would not be UCMJ.
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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SSG (Join to see) yes I had cleared supply before this miscarriage had actually happened, as I was in the process of a hardship discharge due to the pregnancy in the first place.
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Several questions:
1) How many Battle Assemblies have you missed (consecutively)?
2) In regards to being told you will be discharged, had ANYONE ever gotten a hold of you about that after being told?
3) Did you, at any time, make contact with your unit about your status?

Now, about USANG receiving Article 15s, according to AR 27-10 dated 3 Oct 2011:
20–2. Policy
a. United States Army Reserve Soldiers will be subject to the UCMJ whenever they are in a 10 USC (Title 10) duty
status. Examples of such duty status are active duty (AD); active duty for training (ADT); annual training (AT); active
guard reserve (AGR) duty; inactive duty training (IDT). Inactive duty training normally consists of weekend drills by
troop program units, but may also include any training authorized by appropriate authority. All USAR Soldiers are
subject to the provisions of the UCMJ from the date scheduled to report to AD, ADT, AT, or IDT until the date the
Soldier is released from that status. For examples of IDT, see AR 140–1.
b. All ARNG Soldiers will be subject to the UCMJ when in Federal service as Army National Guard of the United
States (ARNGUS) under 10 USC, and when otherwise called into Federal service. The ARNG Soldiers are not subject
to the UCMJ while in State service under 32 USC (Title 32).

My advice to you, is to find a way to either attend your drills, or see if it is possible to attend drill with another unit, and then get permission to drill with another unit. Contact your chain of command and find out specifically what your status is. Also, I would HIGHLY recommend you contact JAG and seek legal advice about your standing and any course of actions you may have/need to take.
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PO1 John Miller
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The regs don't lie. Great advice brother.
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CMSgt (Join to see) - I love google. If I do not know the answer, at least I have a tool that can help me find the answer............which was one of the first things I was told in my first NCOES school.
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that's what I said but I didn't quote the reg.
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LCpl Marshall Tierney
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In California the UCMJ is incorporated into the California Military and Veterans Code, and with minor changes is used when the soldier is in Title 32 status.
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SPC(P) Delcina Gasho I am sorry for you loss. I have went through a miscarriage before and I understand the pain it causes. However, it not only is your units responsibility but your own to contact them monthly so they are aware of your status. I get its a tough time, but I still went to drill every month because it is my duty. As far as moving goes did you not contact your unit as to when and where you were moving? And did you find a unit where you were moving to prior to moving?
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Terrific response SPC Ehinger. You sound like you're going to be an excellent NCO. I appreciate that you acknowledged her suffering, but returned to the matter at hand that she failed to do her duty.
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CPT Kurk Harris - Thank you Sir
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