Posted on Jan 6, 2016
SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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UPDATE 02/12/2021

WOW! This thread really blew up! And people are still commenting (some ruthless) for the past 5 years, so an official update and hopefully this thread dies down, like, completely.

I finally obtained an IST after a year of trying. State of Indiana never sent my paperwork to Missouri, so I had to call IG to figure out what was going on (that's how I found out that Indiana never sent my paperwork - I wasn't showing up on Missouris' roster, and Indiana wasn't showing me on theirs either, just that I had been discharged from Indiana NG). 3 weeks after the phone call, I was officially in the Missouri ARNG. I drilled faithfully for the remaining 4-5 years, and ETS'd in February 2020. I also had a hysterectomy that same month, and I do feel much better now. The previous November I had my miracle baby, as you can read in the update following this one. He is now 15 months old, and my pride and joy.

To clear the air a bit: No, I was NOT receiving pay while I was AWOL - that comment meant I didn't want to lose the money I COULD BE EARNING while drilling faithfully.

I plead my case to my Commander, 1SG, PS and new SL (he was team leader before this stupid mishap). The NCO that told me I was being discharge DID own up to his mistake. A case of mistaken identity (there was another girl in the unit that it was meant for - we looked a lot alike. A unit of that size, I can understand the mistake, however, I guess I should have stated who I was and maybe all of this wouldn't have happened). Also with that being said, I was never previously discharged before, so I didn't know about the paperwork needing to be signed. ALSO with that note, I still haven't received anything about my recent discharge/ETS as of yet, and it has been a year.

Since I had paperwork with me upon my return, it helped my case. Everything from the miscarriage until my doctors release. After the miscarriage, I did supply my unit with a doctors note - that must have been lost in a pile and never submitted, therefore my unit couldn't process an "in-house medical leave" as some could call it, profile, whatever the case. My then Squad leader didn't even pass on the message of my being in the hospital after my miscarriage, as it was the Friday before drill. One would think he would have the brain capacity to do so - no.

I had a very large fibroid on my uterus. I lost my baby when I was 14 weeks pregnant, but registering as I was almost 20 weeks pregnant. 2 weeks prior to the miscarriage, the tumor, as I called it, and the baby were fighting each other for survival. For those who don't understand fibroids, it's basically a mass of cells (benign, non cancerous) that survives off of blood flow, and so does a baby/fetus. The tumor was dying, and so it was trying to fight to survive. It caused excruciating pain, almost paralyzing pain, and honestly, the way Indianas' healthcare system is set up, I couldn't receive the treatment I needed. I had already known about the fibroid a good 3 years prior to this, and upon being assigned a General MD (until 36 weeks pregnant, then the pregnant woman gets referred to an OB/GYN for the remainder of her pregnancy - no choosing a doctor in this instance), but no one was listening to me when I stated that I would be high risk until it was too late. Due to this nature, my uterus wasn't shrinking like a normal one would - prolonging my healing. I did communicate with my SL during this time, he would say "Just keep me posted", not knowing he wasn't passing the message on. Finally I received release paperwork from my doctor, and I immediately went straight to my unit to give them said paperwork, and that is when the NCO told me the "bad news". I was being discharged. So, what I'm curious about, is why you all say I should have given them my phone number or address after being told about the "discharge"? In my mind, I was getting out. No need for future correspondence. Thank god for Facebook, huh? A non-acceptable form of communication really did work out in the end. I honestly don't know why it took the new SL to get ahold of me, I still wonder to this day, but I'm honestly not going to lose sleep over it.

Times were getting tough for us, my then boyfriend/now Husband relocating for work, and us not knowing anyone, no babysitter for the older kids caused us to move to Missouri so we could be with my aging father and take care of him/him take care of us kind of deal. I didn't think giving my old unit my new forwarding address or phone number mattered, as I "thought" I was being discharged. However, if all that didn't happen, I do believe I would still be in that wretched state (can you guys tell I despise Indiana? I was born there, moved her to Missouri in 1996, and moved to Indiana to be close to my biological dad after my mom passed in 2013, AND hopefully get free of my abusive ex-husband (yes, it worked), where I met my current husband). Ironically, 2 weeks prior to our move to Indiana, I ran into my PS at the restaurant I worked at, and he didn't even seem to know about my miscarriage (which should have thrown flags up by his confused look) and he DID come back for me once he realized I was still on their roster, however we had already moved at that time. So yes, he did try.

SOOO... I think that sums it up.

PLEASE, for all things holy, do not respond to this thread.. It is very old, and it gets tiring repeating myself to new comments (which, hopefully with this update being first on the list, you guys won't need to comment).

Was I a crappy soldier? I don't think so. I always did what was asked of me, within reason. Did I stop caring after being AWOL for a year and coming back? Yes. I know I probably didn't "deserve" respect, perse as far what had happened, but there should be a line as to how to treat a soldier no matter what their APFT score is, their height/weight, etc. Some of the leadership in that unit really sucked, and some of those leaders treated others like shite no matter their stance in the unit....

For instance: a PV2 that never had a passing PT test was able to be team leader before a SPC. Doesn't make sense, does it? I'm not sure what the term is... Hazing, maybe? Bullying definitely. Belittling in front of others, etc. that happened quite a bit. Thats not professionalism. So yes, I stopped caring. Because I was the target. From my own squad leader. No matter what had happened, I didn't deserve that. I could have easily taken a dishonorable being so many states away, but I didn't. I went back and tried my hardest to be a good soldier, 12 hour drive one way. There was even a time that I VOLUNTEERED to be on door guard duty for someone so s/he could use the latrine and get something to eat, to NOT be released the entire day and watching all the other platoons and companies of the Battalion be released to go home. No relief. I got a phone call when I was on my way home asking where I was at, and that "You weren't relieved of your duties, you need to come back" My response? "We were released" to be told "No, the unit was released. You were not." Shit ass unit. Sorry for my language. Once I got my IST I never looked back. Even my new unit had to un-f*ck my paperwork that was sent over. The new unit treated me like I was family, like a unit should (IMHO).

Thank you all for reading the new update. Things are going very well for me. So well in fact, that an injury I sustained in BCT/AIT 14 years ago is now being reviewed for VA Disability. Tinnitus was approved, just waiting on the others.



UPDATE 11/15

Since so many people have been responding to this 3 year old thread, and not really reading updated comments, here is an official update:

So, when I returned to my old unit, I have medical documentation, and also provided insight on the miscarriage and baby as well. He would’ve been born with Trisomy 13, which also gives a short life span as well, so in my eyes the miscarriage is kind of a blessing. My commander and 1SG were informed of what happened, made copies of my medical documents, and asked what I wanted. I requested to stay in (since I was originally looking at a hardship discharge due to the pregnancy in the first place, since I was no longer pregnancy and physically/mentally stable, I requested to stay in). At this time, I had an actual discharge packet at state for being unsat, and my CO informed me that if she could pull it then she will, but if not then it would go through and I would receive a general discharge. The following Monday I received an email stating that she successfully pulled the packet.

From then on (that is January 2016) until August, I continued to drive 12 hours one way to drill; I had to miss in July due to family reasons, but I’m August I went up early to make up the July drill. When I was an hour away, I called to make sure someone would be there, so I could sleep in the armory. At this time, I was asked if I wanted to do an IST, I said yes. I was also informed that my July drill had been excused (more non communication from my CoC- go figure). That following September, I was drilling with a new unit in my current HOR state. That unit was scheduled to deploy to Cuba the following summer. I wanted to go. However, my transfer wasn’t complete at that time, come to find out, Indiana has discharged me from their records (so Missouri could pick me up), but never sent the paperwork. From July until September 2017, I was in Limbo - not actively drilling because “I didn’t exist” in ANY states records. I called IG, and within 3 weeks I was on the roster to a different unit (the one I was trying to deploy with had already left, so I found another unit). Currently still in said unit, and on good drilling status.

Since I couldn’t go to Cuba in 2017, there was another unit scheduled to deploy May of this year to Kuwait. I wanted to go as well. And my name was actually on the roster to deploy.

Why didn’t I?

I found out I was pregnant in february; and on 11/3 I delivered a healthy, beautiful baby boy. My miracle finally happened! I had a rough beginning of pregnancy, when I was 6 weeks I went to the ER due to severe cramping (thought I was having a miscarriage again); doctor said it was a blighted ovum (Empty sac) because my HCG/PH levels weren’t as high as they should’ve been. So I went home, waiting to pass the fetus. A week went by, and still nothing.

Come to find out, I was a week behind. So instead of being 6 weeks at that time, I was actually 5 weeks. I still have the tumor, and in the spring time everything will be taken out.

And yes, the fibroid has and still is registering me as pregnant, by the measurement guide. When I was pregnant, I started out measuring at 12 weeks; towards the end I was only a week ahead (measuring).

No, I was not receiving pay while I was absent, and the “warrant” for my arrest was a ploy to get me back, which he didn’t have to threaten with and lie about. I would’ve been back to drill that May if they had informed me of my actual status; but honestly, why would I keep in communication with a unit that is discharging me, and telling me I no longer have to show up? In my eyes, I was done. That unit wasn’t my favorite, so I’m not gonna go back and talk to people like they were my teachers from High School, post graduation.

I had a miscarriage last January, and by not healing quick enough my former Readiness NCO told me that I was being discharged (In April). This past December, My "new" squad leader had gotten ahold of me via Facebook and let me know what was going on, if I didn't show up then I was going to be arrested, et cetera.

What I don't understand, is why didn't my platoon sergeant tell me that I was still on the roster when I saw him in August? I have moved two states away since then, and now I have to travel 12+hours to go to drill.

I need help, I don't know what to do, say, et cetera. I'm in the National Guard, and I was told long ago that article 15 can't be given to National Guard soldiers due to just being one weekend a month. Honestly, I'm scared. I waited a long time to get E4, and I don't want to lose it, nor my pay because I'm hurting as it is.

Any questions, just ask. But I really need advice. I plan on showing up for drill, and I don't want to be discharged, but a part of me thinks this is a set up to arrest me, which apparently there is a warrant for my arrest, and I don't know how to look that up either.

Thankyou.
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SN Herman Lee
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AWOL for a year? I people with situations that only wishing just went AWOL...
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SGT Juan Robledo
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Hope the Command throws the book at you, for being DUMB and STUPID, that's what should happen
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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Can you not read?
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PO2 Bull Halsey
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Query Office of the Adjutant, get military representation for yourself!
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PO2 Patrick Dwyer
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I occasionally have a dream that I left the service but I should was not discharged. And it had been many decades later. My worse fear in my dream was where to hell was I going to get a full uniform issue. Since I only have my Dress Blues which no longer fit this was a dilemma until I wake up.
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PVT Rocky Susshine
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Your that stupid The army needs to send you on your way. Clueless Myers. Just go away. You do not belong in any service. Damm sure I wouldn't want you in my fox hole.
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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They... don’t use foxholes? I mean, they were phasing them out when I went through training...
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PVT Rocky Susshine
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You that stupid ? Lets hope the army sends you on your way..
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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Says the one who can’t read.
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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And this is what I don’t get...

I have ONE mishap in my 14 years, and I’m stupid. I ask questions. Isn’t that what a soldier is supposed to do? I’m getting really fucking tired of people responding to this post WHEN THERES AN UPDATE OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED!!! But yet people, jackasses and douchebags keep responding. It’s getting REALLY old.

I also don’t deserve the fucking humiliation either. I had a booboo. The booboo was bandaged. Quit trying to rip off a fucking scan of someone’s darker times and letting it fucking bleed all over again. It’s said and done. Over with. Finito. Which means finished if you don’t know.
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PV2 Duane Schlender
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Having read this latest update by OP, my god... What on earth goes through your head, OP? There are so many, MANY flaws to this entire mess. The reason this thread has blown up, is because of how much of a mess this entire thing is. This is what gives drill instructors nightmares, and JAG ulcers.

You had responsibilities, YOU didn't manage those responsibilities ONE bit. Regardless of your unit, only YOU are responsible for YOUR actions and inactions. How the hell did you even get E4 rank in the first place with such an entire lack of leadership skill, tact, responsibility, and so much more. Even as an E2, I could never have been so EFFED up as you. Consider this a veteran giving you a monthly report. Here's your verbal Article 15.

You should have followed up on all of your responsibilities, paperwork, and more. You should have checked with discharge review personnel. You should have reported your unit to a higher authority if they truly were as bad as you stated. You should have communicated better.

In all, you deserve more in the way of punishment than you have gotten. And, as a veteran who was injured in a training accident (saving a soldiers life and injuring myself MORE in the process), and has 30% disability as a result. Hasn't worked in 20 years, and has 2 prison sentences on his record.... I find it highly disrespectful to those of us who do our duty for someone as messed up as you to get benefits for your horrible conduct.

I feel the need to express just how much disdain I have for this entire story and timeline of events. I have made my own mistakes. However, I could never willingly allow a situation like you did. Your problems are 100% of your own doing from lack of action, and lack of soldierly conduct. PERIOD. And, I lack any care whatsoever to anyone that feels I am being too much of a dick. The military, at all levels, is a family. It is a commitment. You fail on BOTH accounts.
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PO1 David Shepardson
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I busted out laughing at this... Anyone who does know they are AWOL, FOR A YEAR, should not be in the military as being to dumb to serve, and sent to the KP unit! (Got the 180 days in and now wants out?)
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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Glad to know you can get a kick out of someone’s misery and lack of leadership.

I like to think I can be a comedian, I do enjoy making others laugh. Hour comment made me laugh as well, mainly because of the fact that your comment was null and void. You must be old school, because KP only exists for ADT. A lot of units’ cooks have been taken out of units, the whole recycling phase I guess the military goes over. However, I can peel potatoes rather quickly. If I was still enlisted, maybe I would do a career change? Don’t eat my food. There may be a special sauce in it.

Have a great day!
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PO1 David Shepardson
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers - Regardless of the circumstanses an individual has responsibility to understand that being AWOL for any length of time or circumstance is wrong. The reason is not relevent, gone is gone in violation of military regulations.
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PO3 Kevin DeLong
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This reminds me of a guy who was drafted for Vietnam in 1971 completed army boot camp. Then disappeared for 10 years. In 1981 he was at my base and was on trial for desertion at a time of war a very serious charge. His defense was some random officer told him he was a sad sack of sheet and had no business to be in the Army. He took that as an order to leave the army and get another job. It end up he had an IQ of 85 and should not of been drafted as he was slow. He walked Scott free.
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SPC(P) Delcina Myers
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Thank you for sharing. Luckily, Forest Gump became a millionaire.
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CW2 Donald Loughrey
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I never was in the NG so there are particulars I'm sure I'm not aware of. Condolences on your loss. That is never easy.
I would have to ask- Did you ever check on your status with your leadership? Did you understand or were told that you were on a Medical hold or Medical Leave for a certain time?
The Leadership has the responsibility to inform Soldiers of their status and required actions so they are partly culpable here but some of the onus would fall on you to verify your NG duty status and if being told you were being discharged....then "what do I do?"
I wish you luck in solving the dilemma. It seems there are corrective actions to be taken on all fronts in this one. I recommend you show up, plead your case and state if you desire to remain in the NG or not. If you do...Soldier yourself silly to establish yourself in the Unit or find another Guard assignment where you can do that. Best Regards.
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