Posted on Jun 17, 2020
Can my company commander force me to go to a school? If not, what's the policy and regulation?
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My company commander is attempting to force me to go to RSLC(a recon school) but I don't want to go. I want to go to RASP 1 and go to Regiment, but he says that he can force me to go to RSLC. I need to know if this is true, and if it's not, what the regulation is so I can show him proof. He also told me that he won't sign my 4187 for RASP unless I go to RSLC.
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You never, ever turn down the chance to go to a school. I have never heard of a Soldier try to not go to a professional school. With you trying to decline a school, I doubt your CoC will be looking to send you to any other schools. You should never bite the hand that feeds you.
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PVT Curtis Boone
Kinda funny to me reading this now. I actually refused one of 2 slots for Ranger School when i was in Hawaii. I said , " I like to eat and sleep, and i don't have to prove to anyone that i cant do either".... I was only 20 and Just didn't want to do it. Not my brightest moment ever. Go easy on me boys. lol
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I never in my mind thought I would see something like this. Most of the Army wants to "save money" and only uses schools for retention incentives and rewards, this guy actually wants to send people without them requesting first.
I'd love to say RSLC should be used for the scouts, but man you are getting a slot for a VERY good, difficult, looks great, fantastic training course without having to fight for it.
The 75th also does not like to accept experienced 11B into the Regiment unless they are that good of a Soldier - they like to develop from within (just talk to the Recruiters). Having RSLC will absolutely be one of those courses to show them you are worth them taking the chance to accept you. Not many people get that school.
I'd love to say RSLC should be used for the scouts, but man you are getting a slot for a VERY good, difficult, looks great, fantastic training course without having to fight for it.
The 75th also does not like to accept experienced 11B into the Regiment unless they are that good of a Soldier - they like to develop from within (just talk to the Recruiters). Having RSLC will absolutely be one of those courses to show them you are worth them taking the chance to accept you. Not many people get that school.
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Your company commander MUST sign your 4187 with either a recommendation of approval or disapproval. A commander may not simply ignore a request. Elevate the issue to your 1SG and CSM and if there is no movement then talk to IG.
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SPC (Join to see) you’re fighting the wrong fight. Get your ego out of the equation and think about what’s important, this is not the hill you want to die on.
What’s important isn’t whether he can make you go to a school. What’s important is you get your packet submitted for RASP. If you are accepted to RASP you won’t have time for RSLC. If you waste your time getting into a pissing contest, you’ll lose even if you win
What’s important isn’t whether he can make you go to a school. What’s important is you get your packet submitted for RASP. If you are accepted to RASP you won’t have time for RSLC. If you waste your time getting into a pissing contest, you’ll lose even if you win
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PO2 Mike Shorey
If his CoC wants him to go to this school and won’t sign his form for the school he wants the CoC isn’t going to approve the school if he escalates it.
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PO2 Mike Shorey in the Army a CoC doesn’t have the option to refuse to sign documents. They must sign and recommend approval or disapproval and forward it to the Approving Authority for final approval.
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PO2 Mike Shorey
SFC (Join to see) that wasn’t what I was getting at. Pushing your CoC to sign the form will most likely result in a denial. I’m sure you’re aware of the level of petty that exists in the military. Piss the wrong person off and you’re screwed.
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